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  #11  
Old 10-11-2007, 08:48 PM
creedofhubris creedofhubris is offline
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Default Re: A couple bluffs/semibluffs, what do you think?

I think your larger problem is that you have 5k hands vs. one person. If you both think you have enough of an edge to play that many hands, chances are neither of you do.
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:52 PM
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Default Re: A couple bluffs/semibluffs, what do you think?

Hand 1 sucks.....If you think he's bluffing just call and c/c river.

Hand 2 preflop is meh, but given how you got here shoving looks about right.

Hand 3 raise the flop and get it in, river play is spew.

Hand 4 is fine given the dynamics of the match

Hand 5 can be good, but is obv super player dependant, so tough to comment on here.

Hand 6 I think you're getting looked up light on the river.....dont like it.
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:04 PM
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Default Re: A couple bluffs/semibluffs, what do you think?

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I think your larger problem is that you have 5k hands vs. one person. If you both think you have enough of an edge to play that many hands, chances are neither of you do.

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I found a hidden message!!
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Old 10-12-2007, 10:44 AM
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Which ones worked or look good, which ones are spewy? Villian is pokernubz. We are playing 4 tables at once and 3 betting and 4 betting each other a lot!

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): $207
SB: $265

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">SB raises to $6</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $21</font>, SB calls $15

Flop: ($42) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">SB bets $30</font>, Hero calls $30

Turn: ($102) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">SB bets $80</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $156 and is All-In</font>,

he called quickly with KK, I suck.

Hand 2:

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Hero (SB): $533.75
BB: $355.75

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $21</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $63</font>, BB calls $42

Flop: ($126) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $470.75 and is All-In</font>,

he instacalled with 10/9 top 2, but I turned a straight and rivered a heart.

Hand 3:

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BB: $472.05
Hero (SB): $197.75

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $21</font>, Hero calls $15

Flop: ($42) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $24</font>, Hero calls $24

Turn: ($90) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($90) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $64</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $152.75 and is All-In</font>,

he folded.

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Hero (SB): $275
BB: $201.50

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $21</font>, Hero calls $15

Flop: ($42) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $42</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $254 and is All-In</font>,

he had Qh9h and missed. ship it.

Hand #5 - I up a couple buyins and make a hero call? or really bad?

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Hero (BB): $695.50
SB: $200

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">SB raises to $6</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $21</font>, SB calls $15

Flop: ($42) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">SB bets $30</font>, Hero calls $30

Turn: ($102) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">SB bets $149 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $149

River: ($400) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $400 Pot ($0.50 Rake)

I'm dead against a set of 4s. I suck again.

Hand #6

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Hero (BB): $259.50
SB: $405.50

Pre-Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">SB raises to $6</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $18</font>, SB calls $12

Flop: ($36) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $25</font>, SB calls $25

Turn: ($86) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">SB bets $56</font>, Hero calls $56

River: ($198) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $160.50 and is All-In</font>

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he folded.
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Old 10-12-2007, 10:52 AM
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Default Re: RESULTS

Did you guys hug and have beers afterwards?

Barry
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Old 10-12-2007, 10:56 AM
BarryLyndon BarryLyndon is offline
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Default Re: RESULTS

From what it looks like:

1. This player was playing the goods a lot more than you thought.

2. You won a couple flips against him.

3. He's an idiot for folding Hand 3. Or at least going so far with it.

4. You may have issues calculating your FE.

5. None of these are real spews, but if I played you, I'd try to trap you to death slowly and sexy.

Barry

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Old 10-12-2007, 12:11 PM
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From what it looks like:

1. This player was playing the goods a lot more than you thought.

2. You won a couple flips against him.
yes, I did.
3. He's an idiot for folding Hand 3. Or at least going so far with it.

4. You may have issues calculating your FE.
I read the high stakes forum all the time and sometimes FE doesn't matter. I've read posts where someone will bet 2000.00 and someone will shove 2700.00 total as a bluff. Rebluffing and shoving air... sure it's risky, but it feels so good when it works [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

5. None of these are real spews, but if I played you, I'd try to trap you to death slowly and sexy.

Yes, I play poorly vs. calling stations &amp; trappers but I'm workin' on it.

thanks for your comments. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Old 10-12-2007, 03:10 PM
BarryLyndon BarryLyndon is offline
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Default Re: RESULTS

yeah, sometimes, SOMETIMES, you can look "FE" becomes kinduv fiction. I think you need to have a little somethin' somethin' for it to work tho, know your player isn't fundamentally sound, or have a good feel for the meta. I think in hand three, your "meta" considerations were really interesting, which is why I felt bad criticizing you on that one, actually. It's kinduv sexy when I look at it again, because you take him off KQ which beats you. It's entirely odd, however, for him to bet into you as opposed to pick off your bluff, since KQ has some showdown value here, as does bluff catches with mid pairs. Thus, the meta part - logically speaking, his bet/fold here is terrible.

Barry
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