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Old 11-09-2007, 04:16 AM
OSUGreg1983 OSUGreg1983 is offline
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Default 25NL: How\'s my line?

Villain is LAG donkey fish 58/24/9 > 105 hands dumping to everyone. I have a good image at 19/13/2.

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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CO: $34
BTN: $24.65
SB: $22.80
Hero (BB): $29.95
UTG: $28.05

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1</font>, CO calls $1, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.10) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">CO bets $2</font>, Hero calls $2, UTG folds

Turn: ($7.10) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $7.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $20</font>

I obviously intend calling if he shoves.
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:21 AM
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Default Re: 25NL: How\'s my line?

I'd personally prefer waiting for a better spot to stack this donkey.
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:23 AM
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Default Re: 25NL: How\'s my line?

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I'd personally prefer waiting for a better spot to stack this donkey.

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Overbetting the pot from position is routine for him.
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:34 AM
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Default Re: 25NL: How\'s my line?

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I'd personally prefer waiting for a better spot to stack this donkey.

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Overbetting the pot from position is routine for him.

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In that case, I think it's high variance but fine. His aggression numbers are insane for his looseness, and if he'll play any two cards this way, you'll be ahead on the turn more often than not.
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:38 AM
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Default Re: 25NL: How\'s my line?

Not that players like him notice stats of others around him, but I justify my move because, a) im confident im ahead most of the time, and b) I have a very solid table image (not that he notices this either)
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:36 AM
Maunzekater Maunzekater is offline
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Default Re: 25NL: How\'s my line?

You may have the best hand here, you may be drawing very slim.
This is high variance play, i prefer waiting for e batter spot too. If he overbets frequently, you will get paid off very well if you hit a strong hand. And against this villain, even a vunerable hand like TPGK is a monster.
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:46 AM
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You may have the best hand here, you may be drawing very slim.
This is high variance play, i prefer waiting for e batter spot too. If he overbets frequently, you will get paid off very well if you hit a strong hand. And against this villain, even a vunerable hand like TPGK is a monster.

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High variance I agree for the most part, but I feel against these types of players its necessary to do this every once and awhile. One could argue its not a good spot, but I had a very good read and gut feeling I was ahead of his range most of the time.

Flat calling here is a weak play IMO b/c any river card is a scare card for me and I dont want to face a push on that street.
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:55 AM
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Flat calling here is a weak play IMO b/c any river card is a scare card for me and I dont want to face a push on that street.

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FWIW, though, if your read on Villain is that he'll probably fire again on the river no matter what he has, then I think flat calling is better than checkraising.

The checkraise does not protect your hand against this guy (or at least not enough to make it worth bothering with if Villain will fire again with A9o UI on the river). The checkraise gets value versus a flush draw and worse pairs, but, then again, was this Villain really going to check a bust behind on the river? And if he has XX, there certainly is something to say for letting him continue to bluff, despite the fact that that XX could have 6 outs versus your 88.
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Old 11-09-2007, 05:01 AM
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High variance I agree for the most part, but I feel against these types of players its necessary to do this every once and awhile. One could argue its not a good spot, but I had a very good read and gut feeling I was ahead of his range most of the time.

Flat calling here is a weak play IMO b/c any river card is a scare card for me and I dont want to face a push on that street.

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I don't want to criticize your play in this hand, as it is unlikely for him to have a great hand. He will have a mediocre hand most of the time, just like you.

What i wanted to say is that there are many great spots to stack him where they are drawing very slim. It's so incredible easy to win all their money, it needs only patience. Like poneez said, overpairs or TPTK-like hands are the nuts against spewtards.
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Old 11-09-2007, 07:54 AM
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Default Re: 25NL: How\'s my line?

i like it vs said opponent.
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