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Old 11-20-2007, 02:57 AM
OSUGreg1983 OSUGreg1983 is offline
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Default AJo OOP--multiple limpers

call, raise, or fold here?

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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BB: $4.70
UTG: $1.82
MP: $12.07
CO: $12.05
BTN: $4.45
Hero (SB): $9.71

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG calls $0.05, MP calls $0.05, CO folds, BTN calls $0.05, Hero ...
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:33 AM
gfejs gfejs is offline
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Default Re: AJo OOP--multiple limpers

Im raising 0.3 here. And betting almost all flops with 2 villians in it.
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:38 AM
tcmNOWAY tcmNOWAY is offline
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Default Re: AJo OOP--multiple limpers

Raise for sure. You don't want a scenario where you lead out a flop like J67 w/ two suits and one of the limpers reraises you. With the right board texture, you should be able to C-bet and take the pot if you miss as well.
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:45 AM
Woody317 Woody317 is offline
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Default Re: AJo OOP--multiple limpers

Is it too nittish to want to fold here? You're OOP with an easily dominated hand that has little chance of hitting a monster. I just think there's too much of a chance that we'll get 3+ callers and that's a poor spot to be in even if we hit top pair.

Also if i'm going to raise here it'll be to ~0.45 to give the limpers poor odds to call.
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:46 AM
rothko rothko is offline
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Default Re: AJo OOP--multiple limpers

yes, too nittish to fold. raise it up.
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:27 AM
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Default Re: AJo OOP--multiple limpers

Raise it up.

Be careful if MP comes along. Against UTG and/or Button I commit whenever I hit top pair because they are so short.
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:49 AM
OSUGreg1983 OSUGreg1983 is offline
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Default Re: AJo OOP--multiple limpers

I look at it this way, if you're a great oop post flop player with 2-3 callers, go ahead and raise. (5NL is full of calling stations who don't know how/when to fold, so I dont like this option)

If you want to play it safe and fold then this should be an acceptable option here. From experience, if you get 2 or 3 callers to a PFR, you will get a c-bet caller on ANY flop about 70% of the time. In other words, if you don't want to find yourself in a potentially marginal situation (especially since we will be OOP), a fold is more than fine.

I posted the thread to get some discussion going on this type of situation, because I think we run into it often and find ourselves in sticky post flop spots that we're not comfortable with.
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Old 11-20-2007, 05:02 AM
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Default Re: AJo OOP--multiple limpers

With these kind of hands in SB or BB with a couple of limpers i like to make a nice big raise 7,8 or 9x BB basically enough to fold everyone out, which is usually what happens.
If i get a caller im betting flop everytime to give him a chance to fold.
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Old 11-20-2007, 09:44 AM
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Default Re: AJo OOP--multiple limpers

I usually raise 4BB + 1BB per limper

Most of the time they'll all fold tho
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:50 PM
maSkraP maSkraP is offline
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Default Re: AJo OOP--multiple limpers

[ QUOTE ]
With these kind of hands in SB or BB with a couple of limpers i like to make a nice big raise 7,8 or 9x BB basically enough to fold everyone out, which is usually what happens.

[/ QUOTE ] your goal for a preflop raise is to get it HU, not to get everyone to fold... I mean heck, if you have pocket aces, do you want everyone to fold ur raise? NO! it's the same mentality. you want villain to call your raise (extra cash) and then own him with your sexy postflop play.
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