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Old 08-31-2007, 07:58 AM
HOWMANY HOWMANY is offline
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Default 75/150 LIMIT (seriously) Omaha Hi river play

Yes there are people dumb enough to play this game in minbet form. Crazy Mike wants to play it so we play it. Game is 4 handed, villain is Crazy Mike. Despite his name he is not particularly crazy and is fairly straightforward, which is why I found this spot so confusing.

CO limps, villain raises button which means that he started with 4 cards that are reasonably connected in some way. I call in the SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], BB calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
I bet, SB and CO fold, villain raises, I 3bet, he 4bets, I call now prepared to call down and get shown a better set.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
I check, he checks. Now it seems my hand must be best.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
I bet, he raises, I can only call here I think especially considering I hold a 5 I think? I guess it's not out of the question that he 4bet the flop with like 89T5 and took a free card but it doesn't seem very likely or consistent with his normal play.
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Old 08-31-2007, 08:40 AM
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Default Re: 75/150 LIMIT (seriously) Omaha Hi river play

stick in a value re-raise.. I don't see him checking behind big bet street with a set of aces (nor a set of J's) with 2 spades, and broadway draw on board (that's just way too weird)
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Old 08-31-2007, 08:41 AM
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Default Re: 75/150 LIMIT (seriously) Omaha Hi river play

crying call?
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Old 08-31-2007, 08:44 AM
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Default Re: 75/150 LIMIT (seriously) Omaha Hi river play

I think he might have AKT5 so this could be a 3bet
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Old 08-31-2007, 09:29 AM
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Default Re: 75/150 LIMIT (seriously) Omaha Hi river play

This is a 3-bet. If he has AA/JJ oh well, his turn check is weird.
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Old 08-31-2007, 09:32 AM
Triantafylidis Triantafylidis is offline
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Default Re: 75/150 LIMIT (seriously) Omaha Hi river play

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I think he might have AKT5 so this could be a 3bet

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WTF @ that range... whered you come up with that??
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Old 08-31-2007, 10:00 AM
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Default Re: 75/150 LIMIT (seriously) Omaha Hi river play

It makes absolutely zero sense to me that he'd check behind a set on the turn there after 4-betting the flop. It just seems unpossible. I think the only thing that makes sense is that he backed into trip 5s after having something like KQT5 on the flop. I'd say even a weird A5 is about as likely a set, so you've got to be about 75% against his range. I'd definitely 3-bet this.

If he 4-bets, then it's crying call time against a better boat.
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Old 09-01-2007, 01:23 AM
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Default Re: 75/150 LIMIT (seriously) Omaha Hi river play

does KQT5 really call 3 bets on the river? Surely at least 89T5 doesn't. I think I'd just call rather than giving 4 bets to a better boat.

Also, is there a 4 bet cap on the flop? This makes it more likely you have AA or JJ and tried to cr the turn, than if you refused to put in the 5th bet. Not sure exactly how this changes his range though.
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Old 09-01-2007, 01:52 AM
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Default Re: 75/150 LIMIT (seriously) Omaha Hi river play

call
this is AA/JJ way more often than it is A5xx
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Old 09-01-2007, 02:53 AM
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Default Re: 75/150 LIMIT (seriously) Omaha Hi river play

He is completely incapable of folding a 5 if he somehow has one. The cap is 5 bets, but I think in this spot there is no cap anyway.
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