AK catches an A and gets reraised on flop.....

[HoldenFoldem]

my second orbit at the table. No reads from PAHUD yet, as not enough hands played. Villain has the button. This raise to 3 x my bet smells like trips...but i'm relatively new at NL100, having been back down at 50NL for much of the last two months. Given the little bit of info i have at the time of the hand, what do you make of this and how do you play it from here?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($49.10)
Hero ($91)
MP ($102.75)
CO ($22.42)
Button ($104.55)
SB ($140.89)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, MP calls $3, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB (poster) calls $2.50, BB calls $2.

Flop: ($12) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, MP calls $8, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $24</font>, BB folds, Hero does what and why???

[jk3a]

folding is fine. You are behind AQ/A2/22 and AhXh has you in pretty bad shape. Calling and pushing a non-heart turn is ok too because there is a decent chance this is just a flush draw or a weaker ace being played by an idiot. This is a very neutral EV spot in general so do whatever as long as you're not calling the flop and stacking off a heart turn.

[DaCooler]

ugh, i think i call then if he fires big on the turn chuck it

[jk3a]

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ugh, i think i call then if he fires big on the turn chuck it

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this is also fine, i just don't like it very much as it seems like they almost always fire big on the turn

[HoldenFoldem]

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ugh, i think i call then if he fires big on the turn chuck it

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My limited experience at 100Nl recently goes like this if i call: I call and then he bets 3/4 pot on turn and then i fold. Over and over i've played out that scenario in poor position and wonder what your thoughts are on that....

[HoldenFoldem]

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folding is fine. You are behind AQ/A2/22 and AhXh has you in pretty bad shape. Calling and pushing a non-heart turn is ok too because there is a decent chance this is just a flush draw or a weaker ace being played by an idiot. This is a very neutral EV spot in general so do whatever as long as you're not calling the flop and stacking off a heart turn.

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thank you for a; very thorough answer. My thougts were as follows: IF i knew he was a lag i'd call. IF i knew he was a TAG i'd fold...but since i am new at the table i can't make those distinctions and so must wait for a better opportunity to get the money in there. I folded.

[kidcolin]

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ugh, i think i call then if he fires big on the turn chuck it

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you're better off folding then. I make this play out of stubborness ocassionally and I hate it every time.

[LordBaldrick]

If you knew he was a LAG, why would you Call as opposed to Raise? A LAG type player will continue to place you under pressure on each street (with his drawing hands) so put the pressure back on him by Raising.

[HoldenFoldem]

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If you knew he was a LAG, why would you Call as opposed to Raise? A LAG type player will continue to place you under pressure on each street (with his drawing hands) so put the pressure back on him by Raising.

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sounds good....but are we trying to push him off his hand ?? or just get more value for ours???...and isn't $24 on the flop pretty good value thus far???