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Old 10-03-2007, 12:07 AM
nycplayer nycplayer is offline
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Default Live 1-2 NL: AA facing flop shove - call here?

Hero has AA UTG+1, stack about 250.

UTG raises to $15 (std raise at this table, but not so much in EP)
I flat call (trying to mix it up a little - if I reraise here, I might as well turn over my cards. there are aggressive player further back, and if I'm lucky one of them will reopen betting.)
three more players call, most have me covered, except button who has around 200.
Flop is 962r
UTG checks, I bet $50 into $75 pot.
Player to my left calls, one fold, then button gives a little speech, trying to put us on hands ("one of you could have 78 etc.), and then he shoves for another $95.
UTG folds, and it's to me, with one player left to act who has me covered.

The pot is $320, and I have about $200 left.

I really can't see what they could have except for 22 or 66. Am I really going to see top pair doing this enough to call?

I put myself in a bad spot here, but given the situation what's my move?
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:14 AM
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Default Re: Live 1-2 NL: AA facing flop shove - call here?

live=push
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:46 AM
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Default Re: Live 1-2 NL: AA facing flop shove - call here?

More importantly, than the answer to this question, is the answer to why: "if I reraise here, I might as well turn over my cards."

Seriously, if you only re-raise preflop with AAs thats a huge leak in your game and fixing that is way more important then how you play this hand on the flop.
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:47 AM
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Default Re: Live 1-2 NL: AA facing flop shove - call here?

In a live game you ahve to 3bet preflop unless you ar elikely 80% sure someone else will raise for you or you're cappig the action.

Also this is an asy push. Even if you are behing his range is wide enough that for $95 u got to call him and leave other guy out of pot.

I'm guessing becuase you posted though he turned over a set.
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: Live 1-2 NL: AA facing flop shove - call here?

villian talking like that = monster
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:57 AM
ship_it_trebek ship_it_trebek is offline
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Default Re: Live 1-2 NL: AA facing flop shove - call here?

This is live....you can physically turn your cards over and I swear people won't notice sometimes, please 3bet preflop. This is the wrong time to mix it up especially live.

As played push. I have no problem getting it in with an overpair here at live 1/2.
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:40 AM
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Default Re: Live 1-2 NL: AA facing flop shove - call here?

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villian talking like that = monster

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live=push

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I agree with both of these. otoh, since Jamie Gold won the world series people have started talking at the tables a lot more from what I hear. Any reads on villain?

Also, don't forget the side pot -- if I thought the guy after me might call, I'd push.
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Old 10-03-2007, 07:10 AM
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Default Re: Live 1-2 NL: AA facing flop shove - call here?

In middle or late position I'll reraise a lot more hands, but I don't often play OOP, and rarely for a raise.
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Old 10-03-2007, 07:16 AM
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Default Re: Live 1-2 NL: AA facing flop shove - call here?

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That is exactly what I thought, down to his "oh well, here goes..." shove.

I folded. Player to my left called. They chopped the pot, both having 89o. Player to my left said if I had called he would've folded.

I guess I was seeing monsters under the bed, but I am sick of losing huge pots with AA.

Time for a break from this game.
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Old 10-03-2007, 08:04 AM
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Default Re: Live 1-2 NL: AA facing flop shove - call here?

I'd fold because of his speech.
w/o this I'd push to get rid of villian2
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