kind of an awkward rivered top 2 pair

[olof86]

no, we're beat 99% of the time when he raises the riv. b/f 220 seems good.

[wrkingtobegreat]

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no, we're beat 99% of the time when he raises the riv. b/f 220 seems good.

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C'mon now....99% of the time. Stop exagerrating. Does pocket AA beat 27 off 99% of the time too?

[ArturiusX]

I shove, unless he was insta-calling, in which case I c/f maybe c/c a small bet.

[aislephive]

Betting is clearly best, either shove or bet like 1/2 pot and fold to a shove.

c/c is horrendous, he either has an ace or spades given the action, he checks behind everything we beat that might have called a bet and bets everything we lose to in which case we lose probably the same amount by bet/folding. Not to mention some players would just call with a flush.

[wrkingtobegreat]

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Betting is clearly best, either shove or bet like 1/2 pot and fold to a shove.

c/c is horrendous, he either has an ace or spades given the action, he checks behind everything we beat that might have called a bet and bets everything we lose to in which case we lose probably the same amount by bet/folding. Not to mention some players would just call with a flush.

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This argument against check-calling actually makes pretty good sense to me....

[Cooper]

If Hero bets 220 and villain shoves, hero will have roughly $200 left to call into a $800 pot ! Can you really fold now? I think we just commited ourselves.
If we B/F I think we have to make it no more than $150.

[wazz]

Bet-fold is awful because villain might occasionally decide to value-raise all-in with AT. I don't mind openshoving here but I get called a bit light when I make such moves. I think I bet about $300 and cringe-call a shove, check-calling loses a little too value here IMO given his river AF. I think I like a two-way checkraise on the turn if he ever turns up here with a worse A / fd+sd etc.

[Heir_Aparent]

i bet 225 fold to raise

nobody everrr bluffs this riv especially not with oppnt description and given previous wat happen on previous streets

[yoshi86]

villain seems like a calling station with his low AF. Bet/folding is the best line IMO