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Old 09-11-2007, 10:59 AM
mvdgaag mvdgaag is offline
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Default Re: Asking LAGs for help....

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Devil's advocate again...

I seem to remember reading somewhere that the suitedness of a hand only adds 2-4% to their final win percentage at showdown. This point may be retarded however... does that not give an arguement for playing unsuited connectors in the same way? A poster above said that you're about 10% or thereabouts to flop a flush draw, so most of the time there isn't going to be much of a difference between the strength of your connectors post flop, suited or not.

So what i'm getting at is if you play the unsuited ones too, you've got lots more opportunities to pick up small uncontested pots, thus making up for the lack of suitedness (Thats not very lucid i'm sorry lol, but you see what i'm getting at right?)

It may add to your laggish image too because you're playing more hands, thus you'll get payed off better with your monsters.

Just trying to work this through...

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It makes a huge difference and it is 6.4% chance to win if there are no removed flushcards:

(11C3 * 39C2 + 11C4 * 39C1 + 11C5) / 50C5 = 6.4%

Of course there are some suited cards in your opponents range as well and your opponent beats a flush sometimes... In pokerstove with realistic ranges, the difference in equity is often 3-5%.

If you consider that offsuit connectors often only have 30% equity and suited connectors have about 35%, you'll see that it's not 5%, but a (35/30-1 =) 17% increase in equity. Which is a better way to look at it IMO.

If we look at how we play the hands the difference matters even more, since offsuit connectors make playable draws/made hands about 15% of the time, while suited connectors do so about 25% of the time... This is a (25/15-1 =) 67% relative increase in flops we can continue on even if the steal fails...

Of course if you want to play mega loose you are probably better off adding weak offsuit connectors before you add trash like J2o. But to play this loose you have to be either Sammy Farha or just want to lose.
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