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Old 08-10-2006, 10:33 AM
Bullitos Bullitos is offline
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Default Too agressive?

I seem to be in a bit of a downswing lately, Im trying to find out if I'm going too far with some hands. Is this one of them?

Only 25 hands on BB.


Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
9 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is SB with :jd :ks
5 folds, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, Hero calls, [color=#cc0000]BB raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

Flop: :5s :jh :7s (4SB, 4 players)
[color=#cc0000]Hero bets</font>, [color=#cc0000]BB raises</font>, 2 folds, [color=#cc0000]Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: :9s (5BB, 2 players)
[color=#cc0000]Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

River: :6h (7BB, 2 players)
[color=#cc0000]Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 9BB
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Old 11-04-2006, 07:38 AM
Allday Everyday Allday Everyday is offline
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Default Re: Too agressive?

I'm not sure you quite went into the realm of too aggressive here against an unknown. Perhaps you did. I'd be interested to hear what others think...

I think betting out at the flop is good here. However, I'm not sure I'd take it to 3-bets against the PF raiser in this situation.

Given the action on the preceding streets, the turn and river value bets seem okay IMO. However, I think the value is quite thin. I think he'll have a better hand than you a lot of the time when he calls that river...
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Old 11-04-2006, 10:35 AM
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Default Re: Too agressive?

I think you played the right way. it is very likely that you have the best hand. I wouldn´t make it 3 bets though because the bb raised preflop. It is a close decision between calling and betting on the flop. the rest is pretty standard play.
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Old 11-04-2006, 10:39 AM
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Default Re: Too agressive?

I think you need to c/r the flop instead of donking.

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Old 11-04-2006, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: Too agressive?

I actually like your line here.
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Old 11-04-2006, 01:47 PM
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Default Re: Too agressive?

I like a preflop raise.

The way you played it I think leading the flop and hoping the bb raises to protect your hands edges out a check raise. I would call down from there. I don't like risking the free card on the turn but I don't want to pay off a raise and I wouldn't feel comfortable folding in this situation.
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Old 11-04-2006, 04:49 PM
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Default Re: Too agressive?

I usually check/call the river here...hard to believe he's paying off with AK after the flush draw hit, and not a lot of people are raising pocket pairs &lt;JJ from the BB. Check/calling might, however, induce a bluff from AK with one spade or something like that, or get a scared overpair to give you a free showdown.
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Old 11-04-2006, 05:03 PM
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I think you need to c/r the flop instead of donking.

Haupt_234

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Agree. If BB raises the flop he's more likely to be protecting his hand rather than yours.
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Old 11-04-2006, 05:07 PM
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Default Re: Too agressive?

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Agree. If BB raises the flop he's more likely to be protecting his hand rather than yours.

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I would raise that flop bet with overcards all day long, especially if I'm holding a high spade. I drool at the chance to isolate on the only player at the table I have position on here.
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Old 11-04-2006, 05:37 PM
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Default Re: Too agressive?

Hero shouldn't be betting out without a pair. And even if I did agree with that tactic, BB is unknown so I don't see a reason to assume he's going to raise with overcards when the more common pattern is to raise Jx or better and call most worse hands.
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