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Old 11-07-2007, 03:44 PM
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Villain is 22/12/2 and doesn't c/r the flop much, so I didn't shove there for obvious reasons. But on the turn I now have TP and a FD...shovel?

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SB ($187.40)
BB ($270)
Hero ($211.20)
MP ($117.80)
Button ($318.05)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $8, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $38</font>, Hero calls $24.

Turn: ($103) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $67</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $163.2</font>
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:51 PM
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i play it the same
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:53 PM
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:53 PM
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this is fine, better hit that club though
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:57 PM
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this is fine, better hit that club though

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Old 11-07-2007, 03:59 PM
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Should I be folding the turn?
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:04 PM
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You could but I get kicks out of shoving. What do you think his range is?
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:39 PM
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nh.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:50 PM
SnglMaltScotch SnglMaltScotch is offline
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OK to raise the turn you need a few things.

1. Are worse hands going to call? Maybe. AQ/QJ/QT/lower spade draws are about it. I very much discount lower spade draws due to the flop raise from both experience and your read of a fairly passive villian. I can't put villian on much other than that. PP between 55 and TT maybe. I would imagine JJ+ raises pre.
2. Are better hands going to fold. Um no, not really. I can't imagine him simply having a better king unless he has specifically AKs. KQ, 44, 22 are all possible.
3. Do we have enough outs plus fold equity to continue. You have 8 clean outs (not including 2 of clubs since it pairs the board) + one dirty one (2 of clubs).

I think that you are toast here.

Is calling here in position awful?

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Old 11-07-2007, 04:55 PM
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calling &gt; pushing
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