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Old 10-06-2007, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: I turn top and bottom deeeeeeeep

also, this deep, why would villian raise Axss, as a bluff ? For value ?
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Old 10-06-2007, 06:57 PM
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Default Re: I turn top and bottom deeeeeeeep

hm i would call the turn and check call the river - there are so many hands you beat there (AK AXsuited for example) there is a good chance that he use the Afor a bluff - any stats out about busted draw bluffing?
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Old 10-06-2007, 11:16 PM
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also, this deep, why would villian raise Axss, as a bluff ? For value ?

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you ought to know this
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Old 10-06-2007, 11:17 PM
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Default Re: I turn top and bottom deeeeeeeep

fwiw i call flop and call most, but not all rivers (prob fold a spade river, for example)
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Old 10-07-2007, 08:06 AM
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Default Re: I turn top and bottom deeeeeeeep

Villain's raise is small enough that it looks like they're bluffing since they don't want to risk too much if you call. I'd call and c/c most rivers cept the 6, T, spade.
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Old 10-07-2007, 08:09 AM
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Default Re: I turn top and bottom deeeeeeeep

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Old 10-07-2007, 08:59 AM
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Default Re: I turn top and bottom deeeeeeeep

I think it could be a number of hands which you have beat, including a bluff off the Ace, a good A, and spades. A10 is obviously a possibility, but even if you did get coolered here its still just one of a number of holdings he could hold. I think you put in a big raise here. Spades will call, A solid A may call (which you should be ambivalent to, if you set the price right) and I doubt you were getting anymore from a bluff once you've decided to call. And yeah, you're going to get coolered with A10 but I think the combo of the draw the bluff at A and a good A means you are ahead in most instances.
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Old 10-07-2007, 09:10 AM
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just call, his range is pretty damn polarized imo
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Old 10-07-2007, 06:30 PM
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manchild, A2 and A3 are nothing alike here, the fact that I believe he's bluffing does not mean I believe that 1 pair and 2 pair have the same equity

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thanks for clarifying [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] , thats what i thought
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Old 10-07-2007, 06:49 PM
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Default Re: I turn top and bottom deeeeeeeep

I think anything but calling is pretty bad.
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