Huge overbet on river, I have a flush, WTF?

[Conan776]

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I think this is a fold (not that I do, but i think you should). Villain almost always has AsXs or 78ss here. If he's good, ballsy, reads that you can lay down big hands, and has the As for the blocker on the nut flush, he might be bluffing here. But I don't think you see that very often at all.

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I've never seen that play at small stakes NLHE.

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That's cause no one at SSNL folds a non-nut flush in this spot.

[Etats360]

I always tell myself to fold but end up making an excuse to call here.

[Jay Riall]

The fact an Ace is out there makes it an even clearer fold imo.

[Shizzle12345]

How the hell can you even consider folding here. If you have a wild image and if you can 3barrel this with a wide range and he knows that then i call here always. He could easily do this with lower flushes maybe even 'trapping' with striaght or set..

[Unknown Soldier]

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The fact an Ace is out there makes it an even clearer fold imo.

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[Etats360]

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The fact an Ace is out there makes it an even clearer fold imo.

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You're saying this reduced the chances he's value betting worse? He limped in, though.

[Noam Chomsky]

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The fact an Ace is out there makes it an even clearer fold imo.

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You're saying this reduced the chances he's value betting worse? He limped in, though.

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I think he's saying if the guy had the naked As he'd be more inclined to just call the river rather than turning it into a bluff, hence reducing his bluff frequency.

[wdead]

Pretty easy fold vs. villain described. He has Kxss+ always.

[Etats360]

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The fact an Ace is out there makes it an even clearer fold imo.

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You're saying this reduced the chances he's value betting worse? He limped in, though.

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I think he's saying if the guy had the naked As he'd be more inclined to just call the river rather than turning it into a bluff, hence reducing his bluff frequency.

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Q high flush>naked As

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Also I am mega pissed this is now a standard fold because 2 years ago this was a standard call/shove. Games are so nitty now its sad.