JJ overpair in a family pot

[infinity235]

No reads on MP1 and MP3, theyve just joined the table. CO plays 50% of the hands and is LP postflop, but only has 5 BB left in his stack. SB has joined the tables some 20 hands earlier, from what I could see he is a pretty solid player.

Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.05/$0.1
9 players
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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP3 3-bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (20SB, 6 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (16BB, 6 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, MP1 calls, Hero ???

... I could be up against anything from straight over set to flush draw here... what to do? The pot is huge...

I'll post the results of the hand here later.

[MrWookie]

Cap that [censored] preflop.

Don't post the results. Results don't matter.

I'd raise MP1's turn bet, TBH, but as played, call down CO's raise and hope to see TT.

[ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S]

just call, there is no way you have the equity to 3bet.

[bravos1]

cap PF, raise turn first time, but call as played.

[NIX]

I cap preflop

Flop is fine

I'd be tempted to raise the turn bet. I don't think he is donking the flop with 4x. He may have a boat, or this may be an odd way of playing a straight, 88-TT, 7x or maybe 75. After CO raises, I think we're in trouble, but you have odds to catch a jack, so call.

[ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S]

btw capping preflop is mandatory with pretty much any 2 we could vpip with. JJ is not close.

[marchron]

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Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (16BB, 6 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, Button calls, SB calls, MP1 calls, Hero ???

... I could be up against anything from straight over set to flush draw here... what to do? The pot is huge...

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Uh, by my count you're getting 26-1 to draw to, minimum, two outs for a full house, which crushes anybody's trips, set, straight or flush. And unless MP3 pulls a weird call/3-bet, you're essentially closing the action.

Call call call. (And yeah, cap preflop and you should have raised the initial turn bet.)

[Second Toughest]

Call, at least!

At this level, I don’t think it’s out of the question that you are sitting down with a bunch of fools. I suspect that 6-to-the-turn is more a reflection on the player’s abilities rather than the strengths of their hands. Your opponents could be (and should be) raising the flush draws. I think there is a decent chance that your overpair is still good (around 25%). With endless draws on the board for your opponents to pay for, I think I’d raise for value (it’s only 10c!).

….and yes, please post the result later!

[Fantam]

There seems to have been a few of these types of hands recently.

Apart from capping preflop, you could call the flop and raise a "safeish" turn card.

You cant give anyone incorrect odds to call by raising the flop, but waiting to raise the turn might achieve that.

You will forego a little bit of value by not raising the flop, but hopefully you will gain more value and improve your winning chances by raising the turn instead.

[bozlax]

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cap PF, raise turn first time, but call as played.

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qft