50/100 river bluff raise vs Gus Hansen - Page 4

PartyGirlUK · #31 12-13-2006, 02:33 AM

gergery - if he bets thin but wont fold then you should be valueraising him thin enough to be able to bluff raise more. If he never folds, then obv dont bluff, and he will be busto soon.

BLdSWtTRs · #32 12-13-2006, 04:18 AM

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Then when you river re-rasie bluff less, the cycle starts all over again. Its not as if a good player makes one adjustment per session then calls it quits afterwards. I think the best way to deal with a player like Gus is to just tighten up with calling/raising hands post-flop so you don't have to make these sorts of decisions on the river.

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Lol. I knew Gordo16 sounded familiar.

$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, December 01, 18:16:14 EDT 2005
Table Table 66082 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 10: BLdSWtTRs ( $3711 )
Seat 1: blohan ( $1769 )
Seat 6: gordo16 ( $2000 )
Seat 2: ih8luckyfish ( $2000 )
blohan posts small blind [$10].
ih8luckyfish posts big blind [$20].
gordo16 posts big blind [$20].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BLdSWtTRs [ Ah Ts ]
gordo16 checks.
>You have options at Table 69167 (No DP) Table!.
BLdSWtTRs raises [$90].
blohan folds.
ih8luckyfish folds.
>You have options at Table 66919 (No DP) Table!.
gordo16 calls [$70].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7s, Ks, Kd ]
gordo16 checks.
>You have options at Table 69167 (No DP) Table!.
BLdSWtTRs bets [$115].
gordo16 raises [$230].
>You have options at Table 69167 (No DP) Table!.
BLdSWtTRs calls [$115].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5c ]
gordo16 bets [$300].
>You have options at Table 66919 (No DP) Table!.
BLdSWtTRs raises [$725].
gordo16 is all-In.
>You have options at Table 69167 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 66919 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 69167 (No DP) Table!.
BLdSWtTRs calls [$955].
** Dealing River ** [ Js ]
BLdSWtTRs shows [ Ah, Ts ] a pair of kings.
gordo16 shows [ Jc, 9d ] two pairs, kings and jacks.
gordo16 wins $4028 from the main pot with two pairs, kings and jacks.
ladgez has joined the table.
>You have options at Table 69167 (No DP) Table!.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

SB ($1769)
BB ($2000)
UTG ($2000)
Hero ($3711)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10. UTG posts a blind of $20.
UTG (poster) checks, Hero raises to $90, 2 folds, UTG calls $70.

Flop: ($210) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $115, UTG raises to $230, Hero calls $115.

Turn: ($670) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $300, Hero raises to $725, UTG calls $1380 (All-In), Hero calls $955.

River: ($4030) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $4030
Main Pot: $4030, between UTG and Hero. > Pot won by UTG ($4030).

Results in white below: 
UTG has Jc 9d (two pair, kings and jacks).
Hero has Ah Ts (one pair, kings).
Outcome: UTG wins $4030. 

***** Hand History for Game 3119290004 *****
$2000 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, November 30, 02:23:41 EDT 2005
Table Table 69199 (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: gordo16 ( $4342 )
Seat 5: Uninterested ( $2482.50 )
Seat 10: BLdSWtTRs ( $3118.50 )
Seat 4: amelie22 ( $1980 )
amelie22 posts small blind [$10].
Uninterested posts big blind [$20].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BLdSWtTRs [ Ks Kd ]
>You have options at Table 66082 (No DP) Table!.
BLdSWtTRs raises [$72].
gordo16 calls [$72].
amelie22 folds.
Uninterested folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ts, 2s, 7c ]
BLdSWtTRs bets [$155].
>You have options at Table 65190 (No DP) Table!.
gordo16 calls [$155].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
>You have options at Table 66082 (No DP) Table!.
BLdSWtTRs checks.
gordo16 bets [$165].
BLdSWtTRs raises [$665].
gordo16 is all-In.
BLdSWtTRs is all-In.
** Dealing River ** [ Qh ]
BLdSWtTRs shows [ Ks, Kd ] a pair of kings.
gordo16 shows [ 5c, Qc ] two pairs, queens and fives.
>You have options at Table 66082 (No DP) Table!.
gordo16 wins $1223.50 from side pot #1 with two pairs, queens and fives.
gordo16 wins $6265 from the main pot with two pairs, queens and fives.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($4342)
SB ($1980)
BB ($2482.50)
Hero ($3118.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
Hero raises to $72, Button calls $72, 2 folds.

Flop: ($174) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $155, Button calls $155.

Turn: ($484) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $165, Hero raises to $665, Button calls $3950 (All-In), Hero calls $2226.50 (All-In).

River: ($7490.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $7490.50
Main Pot: $6267, between Button and Hero. > Pot won by Button ($6267).
Pot 2: $1223.50, returned to Button.

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ks Kd (one pair, kings).
Button has 5c Qc (two pair, queens and fives).
Outcome: Button wins $7490.50.

gordo16 · #33 12-13-2006, 11:13 AM

What can I say, I'm an Omaha player that likes to dabble in Hold Em. Also, congrats on digging up hand histories from what must have been at least a year and a half ago. I'm not sure the first hand is exactly a credit to your fantastic play though; I remember it well and thought then, and still do now, that you played it awfully the whole way through.

As far as getting run over by Gus by tightening up post-flop, sure, that holds true if you are playing Gus heads up. However, the game is usually going to be at least 4 or 5 handed. That being said, if Gus is the pre-flop raiser, then just limit the selection post-flop since you can usually assume he is going to bet out in position. I don't feel like that is exactly getting run over.

wazz · #34 12-13-2006, 12:17 PM

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Also, congrats on digging up hand histories from what must have been at least a year and a half ago. I'm not sure the first hand is exactly a credit to your fantastic play though; I remember it well and thought then, and still do now, that you played it awfully the whole way through.

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Lol, what? The guy read you perfectly in hand 1 and you got lucky, and in hand 2 you needed runner runner and put all your money in drawing to 5 outs, and you're saying he played them badly?

PartyGirlUK · #35 12-13-2006, 02:26 PM

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What can I say, I'm an Omaha player that likes to dabble in Hold Em. Also, congrats on digging up hand histories from what must have been at least a year and a half ago. I'm not sure the first hand is exactly a credit to your fantastic play though; I remember it well and thought then, and still do now, that you played it awfully the whole way through.

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When someone raises that turn and calls an all in, its likely they are terrible and will soon be broke. When that same player is thriving a year later, having made a couple of million, I think you should give him credit for making an amazing play, he obviously made a great great read and call and owned you. Second hand I'm not sure wtf you were doing. Both hands look like BlD had monkey tilted you with his aggressive play, and made some very nice adjustements and totally outplayed you, and you could be more gracious.

restrikt · #36 12-13-2006, 02:54 PM

LOL @ GORDO

i hope you keep playing 10/20 holdem for a long time

gordo16 · #37 12-13-2006, 03:15 PM

Oh man, I love how this forum immediately lived up to its great reputation for needless character attacks. Great job guys. Wow, I played two hands poorly when I first started playing Hold'Em. So shoot me.

neverforgetlol · #38 12-13-2006, 03:28 PM

results?

wazz · #39 12-13-2006, 03:37 PM

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Oh man, I love how this forum immediately lived up to its great reputation for needless character attacks. Great job guys. Wow, I played two hands poorly when I first started playing Hold'Em. So shoot me.

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No-one gives a cr*p about that, it's the fact that you had the audacity to bemoan the fact that he read you like an open book and pass it off as 'bad play'.

PartyGirlUK · #40 12-13-2006, 03:38 PM

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Oh man, I love how this forum immediately lived up to its great reputation for needless character attacks. Great job guys. Wow, I played two hands poorly when I first started playing Hold'Em. So shoot me.

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No-one gives a cr*p about that, it's the fact that you had the audacity to bemoan the fact that he read you like an open book and pass it off as 'bad play'.

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