TPTK vs. Flying Start

Novles · #1 10-05-2007, 03:54 AM

Lefort's post had me thinking about a hand that happened a long while ago against Flying Start. At the time, I had him as a 22/18 solid player, certainly one of the better in the game. He probably doesn't know who I am, as I rarely play this game, but I'm probably like 19/16 if he has stats on me. Definitely no history involved. Standard flop line + plan + range, etc.?

Full Tilt Poker, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $475.25
Hero (MP): $630
CO: $1,155.10
BTN: $1,212
SB: $594
BB: $1,287

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $21, 3 folds, BB calls $15

Flop: ($45) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $36, BB raises to $153, Hero?

jfish · #2 10-05-2007, 03:56 AM

call/reeval, thats a large c/r

Novles · #3 10-05-2007, 04:01 AM

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call/reeval, thats a large c/r

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plan on blank turn? spade turn? yeah, looks like just a pot button raise.

jfish · #4 10-05-2007, 04:01 AM

depends on the card and how much he bets obv

Novles · #5 10-05-2007, 04:27 AM

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well, the only draw he could be raising is a flush draw, and I don't see many combo draws he could raise other a few NFD combos and KJss/KQss and I think he repopos those pf a fair amount. I think he folds KTs pf. I also don't think he c/r's KQ/KJ that often on this type of board when he does flat w/ them pre. Disagree?

So, for simplicity, let's assume there are just 2 types of turn cards: bricks and spades. Let's also assume he bets between 2/3 pot and full pot when he leads turn. Call/fold/shove? How bout if he checks?

Woolygimp · #6 10-05-2007, 05:10 AM

anyone fold?

ArturiusX · #7 10-05-2007, 05:14 AM

No, these type of tags bluff here a lot.

MatthewRyan · #8 10-05-2007, 05:15 AM

not the flop, a FD is a huge part of his range. and I would push if ive seen him calling a shove with FD semi-committed before

Erikson · #9 10-05-2007, 05:54 AM

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and I would push if ive seen him calling a shove with FD semi-committed before

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FlyingStart · #10 10-05-2007, 09:18 AM

I would not fold this versus myself, prob call and get it in on a nonspade turn.

Do you have results?