NL25 - Turn Top Two, Get Shoved On

[zooot]

Villain was loose passive thru 30 or so hands.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $25.90
BB: $32.45
UTG: $19.45
MP: $13.25
CO: $42.80
BTN: $24.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, MP folds, CO calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.15, BB checks

Flop: ($1.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $1.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $2.00</font>, BTN folds, Hero calls $1.00

Turn: ($5.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $4.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises all-in to $40.55</font>

Hero??

[thoman8r]

This is kind of a sick spot, especially against a loose-passive guy who will show up with a set here a lot. However, 30 hands isn't a big sample and this guy could be over-playing a worse 2 pair - a lot of guys will limp in with K6s or Q4s thinking they are getting odds in a multiway pot. I cross my fingers and call.

EDIT: obviously he doesn't have K6s as he wouldn't have min-raised the turn. If his range is only 2 Pair + hands on the flop, this is really close:


440 games 0.015 secs 29,333 games/sec

Board: Qd 4h 6c Kc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.682% 40.68% 00.00% 179 0.00 { KhQs }
Hand 1: 59.318% 59.32% 00.00% 261 0.00 { 66, 44, Q6s, Q4s, 64s }

[Khaos4k]

This is tough because his play makes no sense for any hands at all. No striahgt or flush draws have been completed.

There are no reasonable straight/flush draws that he is protecting against. Therefore you would think that a set would bet less and then push river.

I am really confused by his play, but I think I make a call here.

[thoman8r]

I forgot, KQ is also part of his range here:

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528 games 0.005 secs 105,600 games/sec

Board: Qd 4h 6c Kc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 35.417% 18.75% 16.67% 99 88.00 { KhQs }
Hand 1: 64.583% 47.92% 16.67% 253 88.00 { 66, 44, KQs, Q6s, Q4s, KQo }


This looks more and more like a fold, but IRL I'd probably call.

This could also be a grossly misplayed big pair (if he's truly loose-passive) or AK/AQ. Yeah, call.

[zooot]

I like your 1st range...don't really see a call w/ AK/AQ (altho anything is possible at these stakes). Prob not AA/KK but again, anything is possible.

FWIW I folded and he did not show.

[Miko]

I think the only two hands that make sense are 44 and 66. Or he's playing AA or KK really strange.

Either way, since you're only ahead of AA (which is a really small % of his range, if it is) I'd fold quite fast.

[yntm3]

Oh very tough hand and equally interesting. I think I make this call without worrying too much because it just really looks like he wants us to fold. In saying that, he is passive, and passive players shove because they do not know how to build pots when they have the goods.

Did you see how he doubled up?

[zooot]

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Did you see how he doubled up?

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10 hands earlier he raised AJo and ck/called 3 streets on [Qs Qh Qc 9s 2d] board to win 1/2 a stack. Next hand raised JJ &amp; called a minraise preflop, ck/called a 1/2 stack shove on [Qd 2d 5c] and held up.

Looking back---he had raised up a few hands preflop so he's not a 67/0 type loose/passive. Had played very passively Postflop tho, ck/calling often and never raising.

[futuredoc85]

this is a fold vs someone who limped in on this board IMO.