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Old 10-02-2007, 10:54 AM
darinvg darinvg is offline
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Default $114: bottom pair bvb

I've seen him limp lead before. Am I suppose to call, raise or just let this go?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t150 (7 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t2770)
UTG+1 (t1705)
MP1 (t2075)
CO (t1615)
Button (t2570)
SB (t1420)
Hero (t1345)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t75, Hero checks

Flop: (t300) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">SB bets t150</font>, <font color="gray">Hero?</font>
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:02 AM
RexWoo RexWoo is offline
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Default Re: $114: bottom pair bvb

For real ?
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:03 AM
darinvg darinvg is offline
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Default Re: $114: bottom pair bvb

I know I suck bvb and I know he's limp leading a ton. I think it's a fold but just checking.
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:06 AM
RexWoo RexWoo is offline
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Default Re: $114: bottom pair bvb

I suck too, and not only bvb, but I can't see how a call can be good here with your hand.
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:10 AM
Ron Poor Ron Poor is offline
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Default Re: $114: bottom pair bvb

If you think he will limp lead, and you consider bottom pair on an A high flop good enough to raise, you there seems to be value in raising preflop. 50/50
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:19 AM
Crash0veride Crash0veride is offline
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Default Re: $114: bottom pair bvb

either raise pre flop and play flop aggressively if thats your read / or wait for a better situation to re-raise his lead. I think it's an easy fold
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:21 AM
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Default Re: $114: bottom pair bvb

shove pf over habitual completers. i guess just fold as played.
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: $114: bottom pair bvb

pretty easy fold is it not? proly since you're always folding if villain leads to you unimproved on any future streets.
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Old 10-02-2007, 12:40 PM
Little John Little John is offline
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Default Re: $114: bottom pair bvb

check preflp and fold flop. stacks are too shallow to raise/fold to the flop bet.

i like pushing preflop with just a little better hand, even something like 76o.
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Old 10-02-2007, 12:44 PM
suzzer99 suzzer99 is offline
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Default Re: $114: bottom pair bvb

Wow you guys don't complete-and-steal much huh?

If villian limps a lot, I'll either reraise or float when an ace hits--depending on whether I think he's one of those that feels compelled to fire a 2nd barrel if I just call.

If this is the first time he's done this, then there's a much better chance he's being Mr. trappy-with-big-ace-guy, so I probably check-fold.

Shoving pre is FUGLY.
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