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Old 10-27-2007, 02:50 AM
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Default $27 AKdd on the bubble with loose moron limping btn vs SB shorty

Hey. I have no idea how to play this. I have already made a bubble pwning shove and btn thinks I'm a moron. I can definitely see him calling my BB shove (then SB shorty mucks). I don't want this to happen. I figure min raise probably doesn't get exploited by btn at all (he won't reshove b/c he's so intent on eliminating SB). I min raised to get shorty all in pre and to allow me to get all in on A/K/diamond flops... How is turn when I pick up nfd? Sorry for all the explanation. I just like to verbalize my thought process.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t600 with t50 antes (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t2390)
Button (t6260)
SB (t1140)
Hero (t3710)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">CO folds</font>, Button calls t600, SB calls t300, <font color="red">Hero raises to t1200</font>, Button calls t600, SB calls t490 (All-in)

Flop: (t4290) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, Button checks

Turn: (t4290) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t2460 (All-in)</font>, Button calls t2460
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Old 10-27-2007, 05:09 AM
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Default Re: $27 AKdd on the bubble with loose moron limping btn vs SB shorty

Check turn bet river if diamond.
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Old 10-27-2007, 07:12 AM
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Default Re: $27 AKdd on the bubble with loose moron limping btn vs SB shorty

I push preflop all day.

Why bet turn if you want to eliminate the short-guy? I check again.
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Old 10-27-2007, 08:08 AM
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Default Re: $27 AKdd on the bubble with loose moron limping btn vs SB shorty

Yeah i dont see any value in shoving the turn, i think you can call if he is the agressor, but might as well have two hands trying to get itm. You should only be folding the hands you beat, and not allowing them to draw out on sb if he is currently winning.

AK or d on riv u can bet
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Old 10-27-2007, 08:58 AM
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Default Re: $27 AKdd on the bubble with loose moron limping btn vs SB shorty

Why do you not push preflop here?
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Old 10-27-2007, 02:13 PM
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Default Re: $27 AKdd on the bubble with loose moron limping btn vs SB shorty

I don't push pre b/c I think btn is going to call me, then sb folds. BTN is a loose player and saw me do an isolation bubble shove earlier and called me a fool, hence I think I'm going to get spite called.

I figured I was going to call a turn shove by btn anyways, so why not shove turn. I don't see villain w/ a pocket pair here. The hand would've played out the same way (I shove, he called, I bricked out), but that's not the point. C/c turn getting like 3-1 is better I guess.
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Old 10-27-2007, 09:04 PM
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Default Re: $27 AKdd on the bubble with loose moron limping btn vs SB shorty

What is wrong with doubling through button?
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Old 10-27-2007, 09:06 PM
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Default Re: $27 AKdd on the bubble with loose moron limping btn vs SB shorty

I don't want to get it in 60-40 or 45-55 when SB is soo short and it's on the bubble.
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Old 10-27-2007, 09:09 PM
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Default Re: $27 AKdd on the bubble with loose moron limping btn vs SB shorty

What range do you put him on? I think you are way ahead.
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Old 10-27-2007, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: $27 AKdd on the bubble with loose moron limping btn vs SB shorty

I don't remember his stats and are too lazy to look them up, but 22-TT, A8s+, ATo+, QT+, KT+, JTs. I think he might spite call me here too... I would shove no problem if there wasn't a large difference between my stack and his. I am ahead almost all of the time here, but am not sure if it's worth the risk with Sb so short and btn potentially spite calling me (with race hands or 60/40s).
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