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06-08-2007, 02:12 AM
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i was all ready to shove, then he potted it
no read because i just sat and pokerace is being slow for me with the new upgrade. in my experience the pot bet is usually a monster or a bluff. and from his position preflop and the borad on the turn, i'd expect him to have the nuts or second nuts more often than smaller flushes.
he has about 400 behind after he bets the 180 Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter) SB: $600.00 BB: $3,038.45 <font color="black">Hero (UTG): $663.75</font> MP: $663.10 CO: $600.00 BTN: $662.00 <font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players) <font color="red">Hero raises to $21.00</font>, MP calls $21.00, CO folds, BTN calls $21.00, 2 folds <font color="black">Flop:</font> ($72) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players) Hero checks, MP checks, BTN checks <font color="black">Turn:</font> ($72) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players) <font color="red">Hero bets $54.00</font>, MP calls $54.00, BTN folds <font color="black">River:</font> ($180) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players) Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $180.00</font> Pot Size: $540.00 ($3 Rake) 
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#5
06-08-2007, 03:15 AM
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Re: i was all ready to shove, then he potted it
I really don't like the river check, you lose too much value from 1pair/2pair hands imho. And you'll still get shoved on by a bunch of worse hands by betting.
I don't like much the flop check either but this one is still ok occasionally. As played, i still think the "nuts" of his nuts/air range is much wider than nut/2nd nut flush, i'd say something like straight and any flush, so i'd still shove it.
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#6
06-08-2007, 03:21 AM
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Re: i was all ready to shove, then he potted it
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I really don't like the river check, you lose too much value from 1pair/2pair hands imho. [/ QUOTE ] that's only if they don't value bet them. and if i bet i lose my opportunity to induce a bluff [ QUOTE ] And you'll still get shoved on by a bunch of worse hands by betting. [/ QUOTE ] none that won't call a crai, so it's a wash [ QUOTE ] I don't like much the flop check either but this one is still ok occasionally. [/ QUOTE ] matter of preference i guess but checking with 2 people behind me is pretty standard for me with most hands, including good ones. [ QUOTE ] As played, i still think the "nuts" of his nuts/air range is much wider than nut/2nd nut flush, i'd say something like straight and any flush, so i'd still shove it. [/ QUOTE ] i highly doubt he has a straight because that would mean he flopped it, and as i wrote in my OP, he called my ep raise and then called the turn, so it hink there are probably more big flushes than small ones
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#7
06-08-2007, 03:23 AM
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Re: i was all ready to shove, then he potted it
if i'm checking river, it's not so i can check/call
i like a weakish lead on the river. he'll raise you for value with a bunch of hands you beat
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#8
06-08-2007, 03:33 AM
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Re: i was all ready to shove, then he potted it
What hands gets to river this way would he bluff with? I don't see much here really. Not that much value in inducing bluffs here.
I'm not sure about the value of the c/r shove afterall, you're probably right about that, it must be thin at best. I stand on my point about the river check though.
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#10
06-08-2007, 03:40 AM
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Re: i was all ready to shove, then he potted it
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no read because i just sat and pokerace is being slow for me with the new upgrade. in my experience the pot bet is usually a monster or a bluff. [/ QUOTE ] Any flush here is a monster
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