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#31
10-18-2007, 08:11 PM
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Re: Media Coverage of AP scandal: Good or bad
i wasnt suggesting a cover up (and my post was as close as it gets.) I just keep seeing post after post with idealistic ideas that dont have much to do with reality. I actually saw 1 post that says something along the lines of "Its in APs best interest to give back the loot and admit to everything. Next the company goes bellyup." as if there is no contradiction.
I just this had unravelled slower that way the truth could have a chance. As it is now the public will see two sides. A bunch of stat geeks (with agendas) saying everything is fine now. And then u'll see some dumb trustfund kid saying "oh knew that was rigged." Even withint he news networks themselves i wouldnt be surprized if reporters cant help but be bias into saying "Oh [censored] yeah! I knew it was rigged." people will be so happy to validate their losses, etc. no one is gonna let us 
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#32
10-18-2007, 08:12 PM
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Re: Media Coverage of AP scanal: Good thing or bad thing
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] ugh, so terrible. all the regulars will stay, and fish will leave the games (not to mention he fact that fish will have an excuse not to deposit) [/ QUOTE ] really appreciate the 2c of yet another retard who has 300 posts in a week [/ QUOTE ] Who happens to be fairly correct. [/ QUOTE ] Yup all the fish will be gone in a week (and another 300 posts). PS and FT are going under... edit: btw this is probably just another incarnation of pokergolffiend and/or similar downies
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#33
10-18-2007, 08:19 PM
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Re: Media Coverage of AP scanal: Good thing or bad thing
Look, at this point the cat is out of the bag. The mainstream media is beginning to get a hold of the story now, so there's no use in pulling punches now. The best thing we can do is aggressively push the story into the national spotlight and have some people or organizations, like the PPA to do damage control and spin the story into a positive light for online poker players.
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#34
10-18-2007, 08:20 PM
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Re: Media Coverage of AP scanal: Good thing or bad thing
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] ugh, so terrible. all the regulars will stay, and fish will leave the games (not to mention he fact that fish will have an excuse not to deposit) [/ QUOTE ] really appreciate the 2c of yet another retard who has 300 posts in a week [/ QUOTE ] Who happens to be fairly correct. [/ QUOTE ] Yup all the fish will be gone in a week (and another 300 posts). PS and FT are going under... edit: btw this is probably just another incarnation of pokergolffiend and/or similar downies [/ QUOTE ] He's correct in that this has the potential to scare fish away without affecting regulars. This is a fraction of the size of anti-poker legislation, but when that was happening there were a lot of people saying "omg all the fish will leave" and a lot of people saying "omg chill, it'll be the same." Did all the fish leave? No. Did the games stay the same? No.
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#35
10-18-2007, 08:28 PM
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Re: Media Coverage of AP scanal: Good thing or bad thing
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He's correct in that this has the potential to scare fish away without affecting regulars. This is a fraction of the size of anti-poker legislation, but when that was happening there were a lot of people saying "omg all the fish will leave" and a lot of people saying "omg chill, it'll be the same." Did all the fish leave? No. Did the games stay the same? No. [/ QUOTE ] He isn't correct because he didn't state the case like a non downie (as you just did). He made an over the top statement. Yes this has the potential to do harm, no one is going to argue that. sigh, since we are on the topic, I might as well throw in my retarded 2c as well: Something is a little stinky with the timing and circumstances: 1. during the reg comment period 2. what appears to be blatant, retarded cheating, ie 10 high calldown. (he called me with 10 high!) 3. complete hand history + some IP addys document released to user??? That is bad enough by itself and would be a problem under normal circumstances. Not saying this all couldn't have happened just by chance or that the it could be chance + whistleblower or whatever but it is strange.
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#36
10-18-2007, 08:34 PM
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Re: Media Coverage of AP scandal: Good or bad
Seems to me that if it's presented in the "The pro players who have an interest in checking the stats on such things noticed that in this instance, the numbers didn't stack up" light, then very little damage will be done.
It might be a bit much for it to look like a positive (although I believe it could) but I really don't see much long term damage coming from it as long as someone gets the proper idiot-version to the media. Lori
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#37
10-18-2007, 09:16 PM
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Re: Media Coverage of AP scandal: Good or bad
Guys,
A huge % of the fish think they're pros, so they're not going anywhere. A huge % of the remaining fish already think they're being cheated but play anyway, so they're not going anywhere. Like, yeah, we'll lose fish. But the games won't die.
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#38
10-18-2007, 09:41 PM
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Re: Media Coverage of AP scandal: Good or bad
Obviously it's the end of online poker - Just like how nobody invests in the stock market anymore since Enron, Worldcom and the dotcom bubble burst.
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#39
10-18-2007, 09:42 PM
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Re: Media Coverage of AP scandal: Good or bad
lori - yeah, i mostly agree I think.
This is why I was considering contacting my producer friend at Fox News just to steer him in the right direction if he thought it was a story worth pursuing. He's really good at what he does but is completely clueless about anything gambling-related and probably would only have a vague notion of where to start.
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