200NL live. Making a 3 way deal due to largeness of pot

[ungar2000]

So I decide to try a new home game of 1/2 NL. I've played in many 1/2 home games in my town, but this one was probably the juiciest I have ever seen.

I get AA and 22 and flop nice sets for each, building my ential $200 investment to well over $600. Then this hand comes up....

We are playing 7 handed. UTG limps. UTG+1($500ish) makes it $7 to go. CO ($400ish) and button call the $7. I have Ad Ac from the SB. I make it $30 all day. It folds around to the orginal raiser, who just smooth calls. Then the next dude(CO)repops it to $90 all day. Button folds, so then I raise it $150 on top, so $240 all day. Both players think for a little bit and call.

Pot = $732

FLOP = Js 9s 2d

All three of us get it all in, creating a total pot of $1,351 (200NL...WTF this is big?) UTG+1 flips over Ks Kh, and CO has Qs Qd. The equity at this point is as follows:

AA 77.41%
KK 12.51% (increased due to spades and backdoor straight)
QQ 10.08% (increased due to backdoor straight)

We ponder different deals until we decide that I get the main pot and they both get to take back the extra put in on the flop. KK guy takes back $240 and QQ dude takes back $139.

Calculating the EV I figure to have lost $92.15.

When a game is this juicy is taking a little bad EV in the HUGE pots good for me in the long run? What other deals could have been done? I figure that the players are so bad, that losing a little EV is fine to control nasty variance and making sure that may stack doesn't get in front of someone else. Do I also need to factor in when the game is breaking up, how I'm playing, etc?

thanks

[toohigh]

Wow, you pussed out on a 77% edge. Just wow.

[tufat23]

lol, you hate money.

preflop is hilarious. donk on donk on donk violence at its finest

[xker17x]

i think u told urself how dumb this was when u figured that u lost ~93 dollars in equity unless u were playing on case money, which is another problem in itself this is just stupid and senseless

[LouisCyphre]

Instead of thinking about deals you should have pumped your fist. There is no way I am giving away 45 big blinds.

[RiverHebrew2]

BTW, stop saying "all day" lol. OK so, 1351-240-139=$972 pot after they take $ bak. You're saying u sacrficied ~1/4 the pot when u were a 5:1 fav to win (you had to dodge 4 outs twice). BTW, you had to dodge 4 outs AT BEST. You probably rele have to dodge only 2 outs twice, so that makes you a 10:1 fav on flop and 20:1 fav on turn. This is SICK -EV. If you're playing in a live game and this deep, you should play lower. You should be prepared to lose a huge pot with aces in order to get the max EV. Who knows, all the queens and k's could be out and u jus have to miss the backdoor straight? You're too nervous about the money IMO. I mean I'm sure you're nervous about this big pot, but seriously, stick that [censored] in "all day!" lol Results? *Jus to answer your question btw, you said this play is -EV, so this is not good in the long run lmao, as you asked.

[xker17x]

lol all day

[DMoogle]

I got similar, but different results for you equity in PokerStove. The value of KK might go up if QQ has a spade or not, but either way it doesn't match what you posted. I wonder why this is?

Regardless, if you're making deals so very -ev, then you're playing WAY underrolled. The only deal you should consider (and probably should) make is running it twice, if that's allowed at your home game.


Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

48,762 games 0.005 secs 9,752,400 games/sec

Board: Js 9s 2d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 77.353% 77.35% 00.00% 37719 0.00 { AcAd, AcAh, AdAh }
Hand 1: 12.957% 12.96% 00.00% 6318 0.00 { KcKs, KdKs, KhKs }
Hand 2: 09.690% 09.69% 00.00% 4725 0.00 { QQ }

[xker17x]

this hand is money hating at its finest

[Miyogi]

can we move this to BBV "all day" dawg?