Why I couldn’t accept ACism

[tolbiny]

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At first i agree with minimum state involvement in my body, life and property, i support minimum taxation and idea of minimizing state, but definitely not to the degree that ACism support.

I might be wrong (please correct me here), but IMO the quality of life would extremely deteriorate for all (maybe not for less than 0.1% of population). Security issues, human rights, environment would extremely deteriorate and corruption and power of force would become extremely higher. Social inequality and violence would extremely increase. I'd rather have a small government and smaller taxes, but with state run institutions like courts, military, police and social programs. I don't believe i would feel safer and more free in case of private repressive institutions like police or courts. Can someone enlighten me here, please?

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All I see is you committing the fallacy of assuming "If government doesn't do it, it won't be done."

Do you really want to base your support of the state on an obvious fallacy?

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It is no more a fallacy than "Even f the government does take care of the problem the free market can do it better".

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Correct, which is why many ACists on this board painstakingly and patiently provide detailed and logically sound arguments for why the free market would provide certain services better than the state on a case by case basis.

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Incorrect. The logic is built into the market system itself. By providing many options and allowing each individual as much choice as possible the seller of a product must convince the consumer that his is the best, he must satisfy a consumer's demands better. You don't need a step by step for each individual process since this simple concept covers them all.

[Copernicus]

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At first i agree with minimum state involvement in my body, life and property, i support minimum taxation and idea of minimizing state, but definitely not to the degree that ACism support.

I might be wrong (please correct me here), but IMO the quality of life would extremely deteriorate for all (maybe not for less than 0.1% of population). Security issues, human rights, environment would extremely deteriorate and corruption and power of force would become extremely higher. Social inequality and violence would extremely increase. I'd rather have a small government and smaller taxes, but with state run institutions like courts, military, police and social programs. I don't believe i would feel safer and more free in case of private repressive institutions like police or courts. Can someone enlighten me here, please?

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All I see is you committing the fallacy of assuming "If government doesn't do it, it won't be done."

Do you really want to base your support of the state on an obvious fallacy?

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It is no more a fallacy than "Even f the government does take care of the problem the free market can do it better".

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Correct, which is why many ACists on this board painstakingly and patiently provide detailed and logically sound arguments for why the free market would provide certain services better than the state on a case by case basis.

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Except they claim that it provides ALL services better than the state without detailed and logical support for many of them.

[Copernicus]

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Incorrect. The logic is built into the market system itself.

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An unsupported axiom.

[tolbiny]

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Incorrect. The logic is built into the market system itself.

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An unsupported axiom.

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If you wish a reading list I suggest you start with "the wealth of nations" and will supply more titles which support the notion of competition improving options once you have demonstrated an understanding of the content.

[pvn]

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Incorrect. The logic is built into the market system itself.

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An unsupported axiom.

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I guess you don't know what an "axiom" is because this isn't one. Further, all axioms are unsupported.

[pvn]

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Except they claim that it provides ALL services better than the state without detailed and logical support for many of them.

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No they don't. Many have explicitly listed things government is better at providing. Concentration camps, for example.

[Copernicus]

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Incorrect. The logic is built into the market system itself.

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An unsupported axiom.

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If you wish a reading list I suggest you start with "the wealth of nations" and will supply more titles which support the notion of competition improving options once you have demonstrated an understanding of the content.

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I dont need a reading list, thank you. Im sure I am at least as well read as you are. There are many areas debated here where the market cannot be shown to be demonstrably superior in results, much less superior in results at equal or lower cost.

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Social inequality and violence would extremely increase. I'd rather have a small government and smaller taxes, but with state run institutions like courts, military, police and social programs.

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After controlling for legally relevant factors, socioeconomic factors, and legal contextual factors, it was found that blacks convicted of cocaine offenses and Hispanics convicted of cocaine and marijuana offenses were sentenced more harshly than white offenders.

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Much violence is also fostered by artificial incentives created by government regulations.

[Misfire]

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Incorrect. The logic is built into the market system itself.

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An unsupported axiom.

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I guess you don't know what an "axiom" is because this isn't one. Further, all axioms are unsupported.

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[natedogg]

I'm not necessarily an ACist, but I must point out that the title of your post would more accurately reflect the concepts if it were: "Why I would choose to impose Statism".

natedogg