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Old 09-17-2007, 07:44 AM
YanP YanP is offline
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Default Re: NL25, flopped OESD and TP, shove here is ok?

another thought, why're you raising TJs if you don't know how to play TP OESD
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Old 09-17-2007, 07:47 AM
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Default Re: NL25, flopped OESD and TP, shove here is ok?

shovealanche plz.

Villan's put a 1/3rd of his effective stack in on this flop so it's AI/nothing.

Raise has to be AI for FE and to see both cards and isn't a masive overbet. Folding is bad with our equity and 1 card draw +tp vs likely JJ+, AKs/AQs. Calling would be o.k deeper.
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Old 09-17-2007, 08:03 AM
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Default Re: NL25, flopped OESD and TP, shove here is ok?

If you see my topic, I'm askin about my shove decision, which means I probably know how should I play TP OESD, just want some feedback about my decision.
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Old 09-17-2007, 08:11 AM
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Default Re: NL25, flopped OESD and TP, shove here is ok?

AI flop decisions 'just' require pokerstove and decent[weighted] range estimation of villan - in this case because of the preflop action it's somewhat easier but also harder if villan mnr preflop lots.

BTW This may be a weak blind defence too esp if you've been on razing their blindz.
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Old 09-17-2007, 08:21 AM
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Default Re: NL25, flopped OESD and TP, shove here is ok?

I'm also thinkin about my preflop call, if I look at his 60BB stack..
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Old 09-17-2007, 08:23 AM
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Default Re: NL25, flopped OESD and TP, shove here is ok?

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I'm also thinkin about my preflop call, if I look at his 60BB stack..

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preflop I'm not sure about but I call here everytime if he hasn;t done it v.often obv. . In general I often call here but think I should sometimes folds vs players that do it more often. i'm thinking of making a post about this as it's one area where I'm tottaly lost and occurs mostly in uNL.
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Old 09-17-2007, 08:28 AM
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Default Re: NL25, flopped OESD and TP, shove here is ok?


incidentally: a very similar hand
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Old 09-17-2007, 09:03 AM
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Default Re: NL25, flopped OESD and TP, shove here is ok?

Shoving is gross IMO. Raise it to 9 or 12?
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Old 09-17-2007, 09:06 AM
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Default Re: NL25, flopped OESD and TP, shove here is ok?

i don't think there's FE against an overpair because of the nature of the flop. Raise is better IMO.
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