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09-22-2007, 03:17 PM
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blind war against LAG: call, push, raise, what?
Losing player LAG has been betting out lots.
Blinds 60/120 Hero, SB (3300) DumbfuckLag, BB (6,115) Folds to hero who raises to 360 with Ac 10h, DumbfuckLag calls. Flop: Ks As Kc (pot 720) Hero checks, DumbfuckLAG bets 450, Hero pushes. Barry 
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#2
09-22-2007, 03:22 PM
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Re: blind war against LAG: call, push, raise, what?
Barry
If he's dumb in such a way that he'll stack off with any A then of course this is good. Otherwise c/c, c/c, valuetown on river is good against someone who will hang himself given rope. Jarid ps - I enjoy the blatant distain you harbor for your opponents.
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#3
09-22-2007, 03:35 PM
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Re: blind war against LAG: call, push, raise, what?
Jarid,
Mostly, I have blatant disdain for how I have been running in tournaments against plays that I find repulsive. It, in turn, fuels over to my opponents. It's a vicious cycle, really, and I'd rather be one of those sweet mouthed silent sharks who is all like "gg, I love you, I win, no, no, you played that hand swell." But, alas. Anyway, I'm not sure if c/c is good here, if a spade or a straight card comes, it could scare him off, I doubt he fires again here, and considering we chop aces (+ I think he calls with A9 or A8 here, but may fold lower ones), I think pushing here was best given the situation. He showed K9 here, lol.
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#5
09-22-2007, 03:48 PM
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Re: blind war against LAG: call, push, raise, what?
fwiw, AQ/AJ reraises here almost 100% of the time based on his style.
Barry
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#6
09-22-2007, 03:50 PM
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Re: blind war against LAG: call, push, raise, what?
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fwiw, AQ/AJ reraises here almost 100% of the time based on his style. Barry [/ QUOTE ] Not helping your case. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] What calls your shove that you are ahead of? What card(s) are you afraid of on the turn? I think the answer to those questions shows why the shove is bad.
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#7
09-22-2007, 03:52 PM
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Re: blind war against LAG: call, push, raise, what?
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[ QUOTE ] fwiw, AQ/AJ reraises here almost 100% of the time based on his style. Barry [/ QUOTE ] Not helping your case. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] What calls your shove that you are ahead of? What card(s) are you afraid of on the turn? I think the answer to those questions shows why the shove is bad. [/ QUOTE ] A9, A8, A7 from this player may all call my shove. A6-A2 may fold, but I don't mind that because we're chopping this [censored] a good chunk of the time anyway. A spade on the turn kills my action but allows him to bluff me. Not afraid of much else. I don't know, I need to brush up on the math, obviously my logic is murky.
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#8
09-22-2007, 04:02 PM
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Re: blind war against LAG: call, push, raise, what?
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It, in turn, fuels over to my opponents. It's a vicious cycle, really, and I'd rather be one of those sweet mouthed silent sharks who is all like "gg, I love you, I win, no, no, you played that hand swell." But, alas. [/ QUOTE ] standard obv. [ QUOTE ] (+ I think he calls with A9 or A8 here, but may fold lower ones), I think pushing here was best given the situation. [/ QUOTE ] Thats fair, I just believe there to be a ton of value in inducing bluffs and letting people hang themselves in bvb battles. Espc agg opponents. In this instance though you are probably right. Jarid
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#9
09-22-2007, 04:17 PM
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Re: blind war against LAG: call, push, raise, what?
dunno...I'm not a psycho lag but I lead with the same if I have a K here too...pushing over the top seems a bit much and dicey...just put in a nice size raise and see how it plays out?
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