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Old 09-18-2007, 11:58 AM
Jaswarbrick Jaswarbrick is offline
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Default Did i make the right play? SNG bubble

PokerStars Game #12127803747: Tournament #61545111, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/09/18 - 11:47:42 (ET)
Table '61545111 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: UBEZ (9035 in chips)
Seat 2: sweet17rdh (1450 in chips)
Seat 3: TTL86 (2125 in chips)
Seat 4: Jaswarbrick (890 in chips)
sweet17rdh: posts small blind 50
TTL86: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Jaswarbrick [Kd Qh]
Jaswarbrick: raises 200 to 300
UBEZ: raises 8735 to 9035 and is all-in
sweet17rdh: folds
TTL86: folds
Jaswarbrick: calls 590 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [Ac 6s 5s]
*** TURN *** [Ac 6s 5s] [8s]
*** RIVER *** [Ac 6s 5s 8s] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Jaswarbrick: shows [Kd Qh] (high card Ace)
UBEZ: shows [Tc Td] (a pair of Tens)
UBEZ collected 1930 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1930 | Rake 0
Board [Ac 6s 5s 8s 2s]
Seat 1: UBEZ (button) showed [Tc Td] and won (1930) with a pair of Tens
Seat 2: sweet17rdh (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: TTL86 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Jaswarbrick showed [Kd Qh] and lost with high card Ace


This was a $1.20 sng and was down to final 4 players. Before i lost a pot where i made a straight on the river, raised an opponents bet and he called showing a flush. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

So did i make the right play here with King Queen?

Pot: small blind (50) + big blind (100) + my raise (300) + reraise behind for the rest of my chips (890) = 1340.

It costs me 590 to call so i'm getting 1340/590 = 2.27 to 1 pot odds, which is huge, considering my M was 5.9.

Question is, being on the bubble, in Harrington's book you should only call with aces or kings if there is one big stack and the other stacks are around the same, but considering my situation, i needed to make a move, the player who reraised all in had been raising alot in that round of blinds.

Thanks, and sorry if this is the wrong forum to post.
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Old 09-18-2007, 12:10 PM
xMars xMars is offline
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Default Re: Did i make the right play? SNG bubble

If you are posting hands(the strategy forums are great for this, but we enjoy the occasional hand here as well) please use a hand converter AND make sure to include any relevant reads on players
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:27 PM
Ender1553 Ender1553 is offline
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Default Re: Did i make the right play? SNG bubble

I don't really know how to respond to the play w/o the whole "well, should have folded knowing he had 1010, etc."

What I will contribute is this: With your read on him being agressive, I don't think the call was wrong. If he did have pocket pair (which he did), then you were realy only a 49% underdog (is that right?).

much past that, I don't know what the odds would have been if he had an Ax. probably still worth it w/ 2:1 pot odds, especially with blinds coming around.
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:11 PM
Carolina Pirate Carolina Pirate is offline
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Default Re: Did i make the right play? SNG bubble

If you raise then only a better hand calls you and it's a coin flip most of the time (as it was). So going all in with the blinds coming up was not bad but the odds are irrelavent there. As soon as you see your cards and raise utg, you're committed. You're lucky to get lucky and add chips, not donk your way into a cash.
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:44 PM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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Default Re: Did i make the right play? SNG bubble

Considering your stack size relative to the blinds, you only have 2 preflop options: all-in or fold. Once you've raised to 300, you can't fold, especially to a shove from someone with 10x your stack. Thus there is no reason to raise less than your entire stack.

Post this hand on STT strategy and let someone approximate an ICM calc for you.

Here's a quick scenario. Say when you shove, you get called 20% of the time and when you are called, you are a 2:1 dog vs the caller's range.

The EV of shoving there computes to 960 vs the EV of folding of 890. Thus under the parameters I listed, shoving is correct. ICM goes into more detail (like translating CEV into $EV), but my example should at least expose you to the way you should be thinking about shortstacked bubble decisions.
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Old 09-18-2007, 05:32 PM
Jaswarbrick Jaswarbrick is offline
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Default Re: Did i make the right play? SNG bubble

Ok thanks for the responses. I have a problem though, i went to Pokerstars and got sent the hand history for the hand and then pasted it into the hand converter and i get this:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (0 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com


Preflop: is with , .

Final Pot: t0

It's p*ssing me off.
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Old 09-18-2007, 05:51 PM
metsandfinsfan metsandfinsfan is offline
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Default Re: Did i make the right play? SNG bubble

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (4 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button (t9035)
SB (t1450)
BB (t2125)
Hero (t890)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t9035</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t590 (All-In).

Flop: (t10075) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t10075) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t10075) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t10075


you probably didnt click 2+2 format on the top left
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