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Old 11-15-2007, 12:56 PM
Jurrr Jurrr is offline
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Default TT on Q98T board against TAG\'s stackadonk with 2 FDs out

5-handed. 100BB effective stacks.

UTG seems a somewhat stationy and slightly spewy TAG (doesn't like to fold much). Hero is probably somewhat ignorant of that.

Hero is BTN with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero is 68/13/2.23 and has a table image of being quite retarded; UTG has probably noticed that, but Hero has probably not noticed that UTG has noticed that and thinks he plays quite well.

UTG raises to 3.5 BB, 1 fold, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Flop Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($8.5BB)

UTG bets 8.5BB, BTN calls.

Turn T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (25.5BB)

UTG checks, Hero bets 20BB, UTG shoves for 68BB more, Hero calls.

I claim Hero played the hand perfectly, but a friend of mine disagrees and says Hero played the hand "terribly". Comments?
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: TT on Q98T board against TAG\'s stackadonk with 2 FDs out

Raise flop.
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:19 PM
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Default Re: TT on Q98T board against TAG\'s stackadonk with 2 FDs out

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Raise flop.

[/ QUOTE ]Why?

We don't really want to get it in on the flop do we? If we do we are either drawing to ~6 outs or up against flush draw + overs so flipping.

UTG's not folding top pair against us anyway so the only hands we fold out are ones we were in good shape against anyway.

I'm thinking UTG won't double barrel much on this board and will just give up on the turn unless he plans a stackadonk.
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:21 PM
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Default Re: TT on Q98T board against TAG\'s stackadonk with 2 FDs out

what is his range for planning a stackadonk?
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: TT on Q98T board against TAG\'s stackadonk with 2 FDs out

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what is his range for planning a stackadonk?

[/ QUOTE ]Well, he plans a stackadonk with many decent hands imo; TPTK; sets; two pair; the turn card sucks so he gives up on some of them (but for others he picks up the spade draw making it more likely to want to stack off here).
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: TT on Q98T board against TAG\'s stackadonk with 2 FDs out

diskopoker, how would you play if you were Hero?
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: TT on Q98T board against TAG\'s stackadonk with 2 FDs out

given what you said about utg i dont think he plans a stackadonk on this board with anything less than the nuts

if he tries stackadonk on this board with tptk he is retarded imo
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:09 PM
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Default Re: TT on Q98T board against TAG\'s stackadonk with 2 FDs out

lol so what did you have
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: TT on Q98T board against TAG\'s stackadonk with 2 FDs out

lol most confusing reads ever
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: TT on Q98T board against TAG\'s stackadonk with 2 FDs out

what does utg c/r turn with that hero can beat?
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