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Old 09-10-2007, 03:50 PM
Chargers In 07 Chargers In 07 is offline
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Default NL$50: omg fold another set???

villain is 14/8/1.9. I think he can beat AA which means he can beat 22 because he can't have Q2/Q3 and probably doesn't raise a flush draw after a caller or AQ/KQ/etc.. If this were HU this has got to be an instacall, right?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($52.65)
UTG ($10)
Hero ($50)
MP1 ($48.55)
MP2 ($77.60)
CO ($68.20)
Button ($50.35)
SB ($61.25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $1.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $1.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($5) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.25</font>, CO calls $4.25, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $14</font>, Hero folds.
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Old 09-10-2007, 03:57 PM
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Old 09-10-2007, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: NL$50: omg fold another set???

why raise pre-flop if your going to fold a set when you get some action?
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Old 09-10-2007, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: NL$50: omg fold another set???

lol, go back to nl5. wtf is up with this place.

he can have AA,KK,AQ,KQs,45s
he can get fishy with 44+.

why are you raising 22 in the first place? did you know that everytime you raise 22, there are ALWAYS GOING TO BE OVERCARDS? GUARANTEED.
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Old 09-10-2007, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: NL$50: omg fold another set???

is this a valid reply?

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but seriously, this is most likely a pr of Qs plus a flush draw or a flush draw + 2 overs. And I would not fold a set even if I knew villan had that hand.
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Old 09-10-2007, 04:10 PM
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Default Re: NL$50: omg fold another set???

[ QUOTE ]
I think he can beat AA which means he can beat 22 because he can't have Q2/Q3 and probably doesn't raise a flush draw after a caller or AQ/KQ/etc..

[/ QUOTE ]

You're kidding right?
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Old 09-10-2007, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: NL$50: omg fold another set???

Think of it this way, if this can be QQ, it can also be KK or AA. My guess is though that this is a big draw... Please stop playing poker, you obviously hate making money [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].
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Old 09-10-2007, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: NL$50: omg fold another set???

seriously, just close your eyes and shove. You will be happy with the results most of the time when you do this with a set. I guarantee it. I also guarantee that our opponents do things that don't make sense all the time.
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Old 09-10-2007, 04:28 PM
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Default Re: NL$50: omg fold another set???

[ QUOTE ]
Think of it this way, if this can be QQ, it can also be KK or AA.

[/ QUOTE ]nope, i put him on exactly 33.
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Old 09-10-2007, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: NL$50: omg fold another set???

This is why you need to know villain's fold to cbet percentage.

If it's high, like 85% then yes you can fold here. Villain is a set miner and it's a set virtually every time. This is the only time you can fold.

If it's low, like 50% then folding here is horrible. He has a FD, TT, AQ, whatever.

If it's average like 65% or so then you need to felt this. You're ahead of his range and there's enough dead money in the pot that you have to go broke here every time.

You cannot tell just from 14/8/1.9.

Without fold to cbet stats, assume they are average and felt.
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