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Old 11-16-2007, 05:38 PM
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Default 200NL AA preflop against two tight villains

200NL. Bodog. Effective stacks $200. Villain_1 is 16/2/1. Villain_2 is 17/3/1. Hero is 18/9/2.

Hero raises to $7 with AA UTG. Villain_1 raises to $25 from MP2. Villain calls $25 from the button. Folds to hero. Hero?
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Old 11-16-2007, 06:07 PM
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Default Re: 200NL AA preflop against two tight villains

Easy fold.
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Old 11-16-2007, 06:09 PM
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Default Re: 200NL AA preflop against two tight villains

Thanks. I'm looking for what you think is the most +EV move. Raise size? Slow play?
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Old 11-16-2007, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: 200NL AA preflop against two tight villains

shove, will get called by KKs, donky villan #2 will tank use his telepathic powers or the concept of odds he has heard here and there and either figures out you both for AK or thinks he has odds and will call with his JJs donks a J on flop, gd day....
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Old 11-16-2007, 06:45 PM
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Default Re: 200NL AA preflop against two tight villains

You really think a tight regular is calling a shove from another tight regular without AA often enough? I'm thinking slowplaying might be good here. A min-raise might also be good. Villain_2 is clearly set-mining or has AK and villain_1 has QQ+. Raising folds out both hands on a regular basis and I'm destroying both.
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Old 11-16-2007, 06:58 PM
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Default Re: 200NL AA preflop against two tight villains

umm, if you put villain 2 on a set, then arent' you giving in great odds to hit his set on you????
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: 200NL AA preflop against two tight villains

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You really think a tight regular is calling a shove from another tight regular without AA often enough? I'm thinking slowplaying might be good here. A min-raise might also be good. Villain_2 is clearly set-mining or has AK and villain_1 has QQ+. Raising folds out both hands on a regular basis and I'm destroying both.

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so raise to what you think is good. obviously it's much better than calling & folding.
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Old 11-17-2007, 03:25 AM
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Default Re: 200NL AA preflop against two tight villains

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Easy fold.

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they won't put you on AA w/ this line
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Old 11-16-2007, 11:16 PM
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Default Re: 200NL AA preflop against two tight villains

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200NL. Bodog. Effective stacks $200. Villain_1 is 16/2/1. Villain_2 is 17/3/1. Hero is 18/9/2.

Hero raises to $7 with AA UTG. Villain_1 raises to $25 from MP2. Villain calls $25 from the button. Folds to hero. Hero?

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How many hands have you played with these two to get your stats?

I'm also curious why you think flat calling will make you more money in the long-run.

You are going to be OOP in a 3-bet pot 3-ways.
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Old 11-16-2007, 11:25 PM
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Default Re: 200NL AA preflop against two tight villains

About 1500 hands. I don't know if flat calling is more +EV; that's why I'm posting this question...I was hoping maybe we can put some numbers together.
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