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Old 10-24-2007, 12:15 AM
Hebel Hebel is offline
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Default 10 nl i smell bs in a reraised pot

villain is 24/17/2 over 63 hands

something about this raise just screams bs to me

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero ($8.65)
BB ($13.60)
UTG ($10.90)
MP ($9.70)
Button ($18.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $0.35</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.90.

Flop: ($2.60) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero?
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Old 10-24-2007, 12:40 AM
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Default Re: 10 nl i smell bs in a reraised pot

Well, obviously you have no fold equity after his raise. His stats seem solid, so if he plays well this shouldn't be a low PP since your 3bet made set mining -EV. My initial guess would be TT-AA for his hand. I don't see him calling with AJs unless you've 3bet him a few times already. Anyway, I fold.
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Old 10-24-2007, 12:45 AM
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Default Re: 10 nl i smell bs in a reraised pot

Well the problem with this hand is if you are playing for a set 3-betting means you don't have the implied odds even if you stack him every time. Plus you are OOP so it will be hard to take down with a c-bet. There's very often going to be an overcard so getting raised sucks and I probably fold.
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Old 10-24-2007, 12:54 AM
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Default Re: 10 nl i smell bs in a reraised pot

here is my thought process

villain is pretty solid, but should be raising a pretty wide range on the button. so I stand by the rr. Not getting 4 bet makes me rule out kk/aa.

I have a very aggro image. So when I bet out on a paired board like that, he may think that I very well missed the flop with a hand like AK, and try to raise me off of it. I doubt he has a j here ever, as he was pretty passive post flop and would probably slowplay given my aggressive nature

so basically, i put him on a bluff
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Old 10-24-2007, 12:58 AM
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Default Re: 10 nl i smell bs in a reraised pot

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I have a very aggro image.

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Shove
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Old 10-24-2007, 01:03 AM
Phalaris Phalaris is offline
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Default Re: 10 nl i smell bs in a reraised pot

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Not getting 4 bet makes me rule out kk/aa.

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this is not always true. many players just call 3-bets with AA,KK,QQ i think you need to fold.
you said you have an aggro image, how much have you been three betting, how many times against this guy? have you been c-betting after 3-betting?
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Old 10-24-2007, 01:07 AM
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Default Re: 10 nl i smell bs in a reraised pot

i hadnt reraised at all actually. im working on opening up my 3-bet range, but for now im pretty nitty from the blinds.
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Old 10-24-2007, 01:08 AM
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Default Re: 10 nl i smell bs in a reraised pot

Are you serious Sonic avatar dude about folding?


Op, fist pump and go all in
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Old 10-24-2007, 01:12 AM
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Default Re: 10 nl i smell bs in a reraised pot

Haha yeah I was serious - Before I knew he had a very aggro image at the table. That sort of changes things. But still having trouble putting the villain on a range here.
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Old 10-24-2007, 01:27 AM
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Default Re: 10 nl i smell bs in a reraised pot

This is a good fold unless you have a good read on villian.
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

178,200 games 0.031 secs 5,748,387 games/sec

Board: 3d Jh Js
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 54.401% 54.01% 00.39% 96253 689.00 { 9c9h }
Hand 1: 45.599% 45.21% 00.39% 80569 689.00 { 66+, 44, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }

your range is above villians, but not by a whole lot, and I believe its considered spew to reraise this flop. Atleast without a good read on villian that he reraises cbets on dry flops.

If you think hes stealing then id call and and evaluate on the turn and lead on a good card and fold to raise.
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