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Old 08-23-2007, 10:24 AM
Mozart Mozart is offline
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Default Board is paired and i hit my flush

Villian is a decent player.
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Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $432.30
CO: $200
Button: $92.20
SB: $923.65
BB: $388.15

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $8</font>, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($17, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $14</font>, BB calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($45, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $30</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $90</font>, Hero calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($225, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $150</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $525


So i can i fold on the river? I think he has often enough a full house that a call is -ev
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:32 AM
KingOtter KingOtter is offline
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Default Re: Board is paired and i hit my flush

6-max and he has a full-house often enough that you can't call? That's crazy-talk.

What range do you put him on? 66/44/62/42?

I'm fairly certain I 3-bet push that turn.
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:48 AM
djshawk djshawk is offline
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Default Re: Board is paired and i hit my flush

With almost 200BB effective I don't like getting it all in on the turn. Call me a weak/tightie if you will but the T high flush on a paired board isn't a monster hand, especially when you are getting all this action.

You call his check raise on the turn and he still wants to put 75BB in the pot on the river. I think there is definitely a good argument for folding here.
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Old 08-23-2007, 12:11 PM
justin justin is offline
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Default Re: Board is paired and i hit my flush

Yeah at first i thought this was real close but i thought it was 2-4 or something. This deep I really dont like my hand here. I think boat and higher flush combos make up alot more of his range than an overpair/draw and trips/draw and I sure as hell dont think hes got air here. I think a strong case can be made for folding this
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Old 08-23-2007, 12:31 PM
MrWookie MrWookie is offline
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Default Re: Board is paired and i hit my flush

You folders, are you folding the turn or the river?
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Old 08-23-2007, 12:50 PM
Mozart Mozart is offline
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Default Re: Board is paired and i hit my flush

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What range do you put him on? 66/44/62/42?

I'm fairly certain I 3-bet push that turn.

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I put him on 66, i was almost shure he has no flush.
But canīt fold because obv. iīm a limit donk.

Are you folding turn or river?
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Old 08-23-2007, 12:58 PM
justin justin is offline
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Default Re: Board is paired and i hit my flush

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You folders, are you folding the turn or the river?



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Yeh i didnt want to commit to that cause im not sure if I could really fold here. Problem is i cant fold the turn because im not positive im beat yet. River its tougher to fold because good tag is going to follow up here and we have real strong hand that we are at sd with. I feel like this hand requires a significantly higher amount of detail in order to know where the hell your at.
villain- turn chk raise %, wtsd, bet FTR, AF FTR, wtsd, fold BB stl, Image
hero- cont bet fT, Agg factor FT,Image

We'll never get this info so can you fold yes should you fold IDK.
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