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Old 09-13-2007, 03:06 PM
Alobar Alobar is offline
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Default Re: Hate shortstackers? Enjoy 50bb minimum-buyin games? Help Negreanu

the players arent going to leave for other sites just cuz they cant buy in for 20BB, they'll either just buy in for 50BB or just move down a level and buy in min there (most likely what will happen)
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Old 09-13-2007, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: Hate shortstackers? Enjoy 50bb minimum-buyin games? Help Negreanu

The easiest solution here is to add deep tables at every level with a minimum 50bb buy in. Then everybody will have a choice of where to play.
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Old 09-13-2007, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: Hate shortstackers? Enjoy 50bb minimum-buyin games? Help Negreanu

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I very rarely play at Stars so how would I know?

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ok, i guess i should have rephrased... you are aware that there are a bunch of people who are professional short stackers correct?

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The annoying thing is very few of them actually do make money. But they all [censored] up the way I want to play. And they make the games less enjoyable for the fish who want to splash around.
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Old 09-13-2007, 04:04 PM
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Default Re: Hate shortstackers? Enjoy 50bb minimum-buyin games? Help Negreanu

So is this 100/200 DEEP table running? I looked last night and again today and it's always 4-6 people sitting out at the table.
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Old 09-13-2007, 04:37 PM
EnderFFX EnderFFX is offline
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Default Re: Hate shortstackers? Enjoy 50bb minimum-buyin games? Help Negreanu

Is it possible that by raising the minimum and allowing a higher cap this could cause the fishes to go broke much more quickly? Ideally a site wants the fish to stay around for a while. Deep NL obviously favors the more skilled players. I think from a financial standpoint a poker site would rather spread games where good players have a slight to average advantage, not an overwhelming advantage over not so skilled players.
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Old 09-13-2007, 04:40 PM
EnderFFX EnderFFX is offline
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Default Re: Hate shortstackers? Enjoy 50bb minimum-buyin games? Help Negreanu

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it doesn't matter if they suck or not. The problem is the unethical ratholing

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You obviously don't know the definition of ratholing. If Poker Stars allowed ratholing there would be no one playing NL there because it would be constantly abused.

Huge difference between switching tables after a short period and pulling money off the table and then staying there.
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Old 09-13-2007, 04:47 PM
ImsaKidd ImsaKidd is offline
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Default Re: Hate shortstackers? Enjoy 50bb minimum-buyin games? Help Negreanu

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Does Imsa actually win?

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the fact that you're asking this makes it tough to listen to your arguments here

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It is pretty obvious I am a losing player because I suck at poker. <font color="white"> lol jk </font>
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Old 09-13-2007, 05:50 PM
Mr_Donktastic Mr_Donktastic is offline
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Default Re: Hate shortstackers? Enjoy 50bb minimum-buyin games? Help Negreanu

Leave it at 20BBs and raise the rathole limit to an hour.

Pro SSers will be forced to play less or rathole less.

Donks who are buying in short just cuz they suck/don't know any better will still be able to play at limits way above their head.

Win/win.
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Old 09-13-2007, 05:51 PM
MyTurn2Raise MyTurn2Raise is offline
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Default Re: Hate shortstackers? Enjoy 50bb minimum-buyin games? Help Negreanu

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I very rarely play at Stars so how would I know?

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ok, i guess i should have rephrased... you are aware that there are a bunch of people who are professional short stackers correct?

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The annoying thing is very few of them actually do make money. But they all [censored] up the way I want to play. And they make the games less enjoyable for the fish who want to splash around.

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yeah...shortstackers are all losers in my database

why don't we want them around again?
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Old 09-13-2007, 05:51 PM
EnderFFX EnderFFX is offline
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Default Re: Hate shortstackers? Enjoy 50bb minimum-buyin games? Help Negreanu

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Leave it at 20BBs and raise the rathole limit to an hour.

Pro SSers will be forced to play less or rathole less.

Donks who are buying in short just cuz they suck/don't know any better will still be able to play at limits way above their head.

Win/win.

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