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KK with 230bb at Party 10/20, 4bet pot
Villain is a solid TAG long-term winner. BTN is a good aggro player who likes to 3bet, and I believe Villain is capable of a 3bet with "air" that could include a 7... obv not alot but its possible. For anyone that knows the hand, please keep your mouth shut. How do you like my line?
Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $10/$20 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter) <font color="black">VILLAIN (SB): $4712</font> BB: $781 UTG: $3335 MP: $3513 HERO (CO): $4667 BTN: $1907 <font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players) 2 folds, <font color="red">HERO raises to $66</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $232</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $650</font>, BB folds, HERO calls $584, BTN folds <font color="black">Flop:</font> ($1552) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">SB bets $1220</font>, HERO calls $1220 <font color="black">Turn:</font> ($3992) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">SB bets all-in for $2842</font>, HERO ? |
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Re: KK with 230bb at Party 10/20, 4bet pot
call man this is party poker
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Re: KK with 230bb at Party 10/20, 4bet pot
your line is fine. call.
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Re: KK with 230bb at Party 10/20, 4bet pot
AA is good.
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Re: KK with 230bb at Party 10/20, 4bet pot
You have to call almost 600 pre, so you can't play for set value. Calling down lets you snap off bluffs, but you're also letting him draw.
Anyone hate a PF shove? |
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Re: KK with 230bb at Party 10/20, 4bet pot
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call man this is party poker [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Villain is a solid TAG long-term winner. [/ QUOTE ] So you think he puts me on JJ and is valuebetting QQ? Or do you think he's pushing the river in desperation with air? Even though it is "Party", standard TAGs rarely do the latter.. |
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Re: KK with 230bb at Party 10/20, 4bet pot
I was gonna say call but I just noticed that the button squeezed and a different player resqueezed.
This would be a good spot for the sb to resqueeze but is he that smart and tricky? If he is not bluffing its gotta be ~80% aces and 10 % kings 10% queens. Your pot odds are 29%. Against his non bluffing range I think you have .85 equity so he has to bluffing more than 24.7% of the time to make this profitable. Pretty damn close, against 80% to 90% of players this probably a fold but I think I would have a really hard time folding this in real time. |
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Re: KK with 230bb at Party 10/20, 4bet pot
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I was gonna say call but I just noticed that the button squeezed and a different player resqueezed. This would be a good spot for the sb to resqueeze but is he that smart and tricky? If he is not bluffing its gotta be ~80% aces and 10 % kings 10% queens. Your pot odds are 29%. Against his non bluffing range I think you have .85 equity so he has to bluffing more than 24.7% of the time to make this profitable. Pretty damn close, against 80% to 90% of players this probably a fold but I think I would have a really hard time folding this in real time. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: KK with 230bb at Party 10/20, 4bet pot
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I was gonna say call but I just noticed that the button squeezed and a different player resqueezed. This would be a good spot for the sb to resqueeze but is he that smart and tricky? If he is not bluffing its gotta be ~80% aces and 10 % kings 10% queens. Your pot odds are 29%. Against his non bluffing range I think you have .85 equity so he has to bluffing more than 24.7% of the time to make this profitable. Pretty damn close, against 80% to 90% of players this probably a fold but I think I would have a really hard time folding this in real time. [/ QUOTE ] Thanks for the detailed analysis. I agree. I know the re-squeezer VERY WELL (*hint* *hint*) and I know that he is capable of making this play with air but very infrequently. I'm also not convinced that he'd follow through with a bluff-push on the turn after getting called on the flop. |
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Re: KK with 230bb at Party 10/20, 4bet pot
i think i could fold it. he knows you're strong, and wouldnt be shoving anything but AA or KK here and its almost always for value unless theres some crazy history/metagame.
I think the rest so far was fine too. anything else seems unreasonable. |
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