First 3 hands of a $33 turbo (NLTRN)

frede89 · #1 07-01-2007, 08:06 AM

I don't really know what I'm doing in these hands.
So how do I play hand one and three?

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Hero (t1500)
BB (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t40.

Flop: (t120) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t80, BB calls t80.

Turn: (t280) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (t280) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: t280

Results in white below: 
BB has 2h Th (one pair, twos).
Hero has 7h Js (high card, king).
Outcome: BB wins t280. 

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Hero (t1360)
Button (t1640)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Button calls t10, Hero checks.

Flop: (t40) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t40, Button folds.

Final Pot: t80

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Hero wins t80. 

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Hero (t1380)
BB (t1620)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t40.

Flop: (t120) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t100, BB calls t100.

Turn: (t320) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t200, BB raises to t600

HokieGreg · #2 07-01-2007, 09:32 AM

hand 1- seems ok, i might fire a 2nd barrel after the K comes off though. he will most likely fold 2X or 9X at this point.

hand 3- cbet on flop could be 60-80, 100 seems a bit much. against an unknown i check behind on turn usually.

dboy23 · #3 07-01-2007, 11:07 AM

hand 1 - I dont usually raise J7o pf

hand 3 - i like a check behind on the turn too.

HokieGreg · #4 07-01-2007, 05:41 PM

edit: hand 1- i meant 3x not 9x

and i agree with dboy im not raising J7 against an unknown usually

ChicagoRy · #5 07-01-2007, 08:06 PM

Check behind hand 3 seems about the only thing that I would change without a read.

J7o is player dependent.

NNH · #6 07-01-2007, 11:15 PM

If the 7J hand is the 1st hand of match, I don't raise PF. As played flop cbet is fine. I'd fire at the K turn, especially with the draws out there.

Hand 2 is fine. I probably wouldn't pot, but that's just me.

Hand 3 check behind. I fold as played.

frede89 · #7 07-02-2007, 09:06 AM

I agree, the raise with J7o was a mistake.

I think the reason I chose to bet the turn was because of his line in hand 1. I must admit that I am not fully convinced that a check is the right move. But we are folding if I check behind, river doesn't help me, and he bets ~200, right?

Vinetou · #8 07-02-2007, 10:32 AM

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I agree, the raise with J7o was a mistake.

I think the reason I chose to bet the turn was because of his line in hand 1. I must admit that I am not fully convinced that a check is the right move. But we are folding if I check behind, river doesn't help me, and he bets ~200, right?

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On turn, you are only get called by hands that have you beat plus he might push you off a second nut flush draw like he did. Check here and fold on the river if it is not a 9, king or a spade based on the first hand (you don't expect him to bluff river after you check turn and this is exactly what you beat at this point, nothing else).

PrimordialAA · #9 07-02-2007, 01:37 PM

I don't mind raising J7 at all personally, and the turn is a nice place to double barrel, or I think an argument could be made for a river stab as well after he checked it to you, but who knows

hand 2: ehh, A4 has some showdown value after that flop, I don't really like betting pot... or betting out at all w/bottom pair much. I think I check here

hand 3: oh man... the flop bet should be sized 70-90 range, 100 is bad for a c-bet. the turn bet is awful... really bad, your setting yourself up for a tough situation with hardly any chance of winning if your getting called w/the 200 bet, take your freecard w/your added chance of winning at showdown once you hit the 9. I think there is absolutely NO reason to fire again at that turn, if your winning, show it down, if your losing, take the extra card and try to suck out, he'll fire out on river if he had you beat on flop/turn

frede89 · #10 07-02-2007, 03:45 PM

Okay I see it now. Thanks for all the feedback. Anyways, he showed AA in the last hand.