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My average bet (in other words, I sometimes bet less than a unit). 20 48.78%
My smallest bet (in other words, I always bet between 1 and x units). 15 36.59%
What's a unit? I bet an amount proportional to my advantage (Kelly or some variation thereof). 6 14.63%
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:00 AM
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This whole fairweather concept is kinda nonsense. If you had any idea of how terrible the managers and owners did in Colorado.. many fans chose to not support their product until they fixed it. Denver is a die hard sports town, but we demand a good effort from ownership.

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Does not compute

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Good response. This is a football town. When the Nuggets put a good product on the floor.. games sell out. Same as any other sport besides football. If the ownership is poor and not commited (which there is NO debate that Rockies ownership was not committed) then people don't go. Doesn't seem that strange.

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Not a diehard sports town then. Sounds like a diehard for whatever team is decent town. I don't think it's a football town either - it's a Broncos town, but the Buffs get little to no support unless they are playing Nebraska. Maybe you guys just don't support assclowns from Boulder, which if true is perfectly acceptable.

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That's simply not true. But if the owners refuse to put a good product on the field, as a collective Denver folks don't give them money. If you understood how bad Rockies management had been until recently you may have a better grasp of this. I'm sorry I'm not gonna go to games if we are bottom of the barrel team and management refuses to try to make us better.. especially when they are making a killing in profits.

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As a Cubs fan, I don't comprehend this excuse. Are you saying that the Buffs do get support?
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:00 AM
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At the very least, fans who continue to support a team, be it monetarily or not, despite that team making it PAINFULLY obvious that they are more interested in making money than in putting out a quality product or satisfying their fans, are TERRIBLE consumers. If this is something they want to brag about (looking at you, Cubs fans) then fine.

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Another good point. And the Monforts have had exactly this stance for a long time. Even with this success there is a lot of doubt if they will keep the players going forward.
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:00 AM
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are u kidding? 99% of the blame falls on hoffman. 1% on black pitching to carroll

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I said he made 'some' bad decisions. That was just the most obvious one. Why was Hoffman not in the game sooner (I am sure the hindsight 20/20 crew will chirp up)? Why did they keep bunting when getting the lead off man on. I know they were trying to play for one run, but a run is not nearly as valuable in COL as SD. They are on the road and cannot guarantee that one run would even be enough. Giving up the out prevents big innings where you may need more than one run to win.

Black also put Cameron in the game to PR and play CF. I understand that he cannot bat because of his hand being hurt, but can he slide head first into the catcher? Could he have dove for a ball or slammed into the CF wall? AND, even if Cameron was willing to take that risk and did get hurt, it would have been almost guaranteed that he doesn't play in the playoffs.

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good save, i concede. still, hoffman i imagine wasn't in sooner cuz the padres have a very strong bullpen and were trying to save him til when it was absolutely neccessesary. (the pen did give up 0 runs before hoffman, after all). everything else you mention is true, but hoffman still has to get a majority of the blame
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:00 AM
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Ridiculous. A pox on the Rockies and their annoying bandwagon fans (not that the D'Backs' fans are any better, but they're definitely less annoying). I want the Phillies to absolutely buttsex the Rockies into the next millenium. I care more about the Phillies winning than the D'Backs. That ending tonight was stupid, plus Philadelphia's teams couldn't win a bingo game surrounded by blind people plus I'm bringing serious hate for Colorado, let's do this.

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this is so nitty... who cares if people have just recently started rooting for the Rockies to come through?

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Uh, because most of the people in the stands tonight think that 6-4-3 is an area code? Sorry, that bothers me, even if I am not the most devoted fan.

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You're being too harsh. The Rockies have only been around since 1993 and the team hasn't exactly done its part to build a fanbase.

The team averaged an attendance over 40,000 per game until 2000. But, the team couldn't even put a .500 team on the field after that until this year.

Meanwhile, the Broncos were winning Super Bowls and the Avalance were winning Stanley Cups.

Do the Nuggets still play basketball?
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:01 AM
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At the very least, fans who continue to support a team, be it monetarily or not, despite that team making it PAINFULLY obvious that they are more interested in making money than in putting out a quality product or satisfying their fans, are TERRIBLE consumers. If this is something they want to brag about (looking at you, Cubs fans) then fine.

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True, but it doesn't make Denver a good sports town. It isn't.
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:02 AM
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If the Monforts keep this team together we'll pull 4 million fans again next year.
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:03 AM
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At the very least, fans who continue to support a team, be it monetarily or not, despite that team making it PAINFULLY obvious that they are more interested in making money than in putting out a quality product or satisfying their fans, are TERRIBLE consumers. If this is something they want to brag about (looking at you, Cubs fans) then fine.

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True, but it doesn't make Denver a good sports town. It isn't.

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Ding, ding, ding.
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:04 AM
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At the very least, fans who continue to support a team, be it monetarily or not, despite that team making it PAINFULLY obvious that they are more interested in making money than in putting out a quality product or satisfying their fans, are TERRIBLE consumers. If this is something they want to brag about (looking at you, Cubs fans) then fine.

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True, but it doesn't make Denver a good sports town. It isn't.

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I guess I just have a different definition of what a good sports town is. This is the second time tonight I've come up against people who disagree with me on what a "real fan" is or what a "real sports town" is so it seems pretty likely that it is ME who has some non-standard definitions. I just think blind homerism regardless of the consequences != good sports town. A good sports town is knowledgeable and exerts the only small influence it can to improve its sports teams, and that is the power of financial backing. If I were an owner, and I had a fan base that would sell out the stadium, buy tons of merchandise and go apeshit no matter what kind of garbage I put out there, why would I spend money to win?
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:05 AM
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Our sport teams are the most important thing in the town. But we don't accept management thats not committed to the team.. especially when we have such an amazing owner in Pat Bowlen. I'm sorry if you continue to support owners that fleece you, but we have higher expectations here and a number of championships in the last decade.
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:06 AM
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You must be lost. This is a baseball thread.

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Whoa, thanks mang. I was wondering why I didn't see Carmelo Anthony all night. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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I think he was in the Triceritops mascot uniform trying to voodoo Hoffman.
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