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Old 02-16-2007, 04:24 PM
TinderWall TinderWall is offline
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

I'd fold as well.
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Old 02-16-2007, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

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flop bet bigger? what does 23 accomplish that 17 doesnt?

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Might fold 66-TT with a bigger bet. Plus, wouldn't we bet $23 with AA, KK, QQ, JJ here?

As an aside, should our bet sizes be a larger or smaller fraction of the pot since we're 3-handed instead of HU here? Or neither?
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Old 02-16-2007, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

I think I check behind on the turn...especially against an aggressive player for a few reasons:

1)might get him to fire the river w/ a busted draw
2)we get to showdown for almost the same price as bet/folding the turn
3)in the future he might bluff the river less often after I check behind on the turn...knowing I do it with some good hands as well as bad ones

And IMO...the flop bet is fine. If you really want to show that you mean business...I suppose $20 would be a good even number.
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Old 02-16-2007, 05:26 PM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

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flop bet bigger? what does 23 accomplish that 17 doesnt?

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NADA

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Might fold 66-TT with a bigger bet. Plus, wouldn't we bet $23 with AA, KK, QQ, JJ here?

As an aside, should our bet sizes be a larger or smaller fraction of the pot since we're 3-handed instead of HU here? Or neither?

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Definitly. Because a cbet into 2 villains shows more strength than cbetting into 1, its not a bad policy to reduce the size of your cbet. Reasoning being its a ballsy move betting into 2 opponents and also the fact that the chances the flop hit an opponent are higher and subsequently, our chances of getting called are higher as well. We lose little FE and we save money.
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Old 02-16-2007, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

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As an aside, should our bet sizes be a larger or smaller fraction of the pot since we're 3-handed instead of HU here? Or neither?

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Definitly. Because a cbet into 2 villains shows more strength than cbetting into 1, its not a bad policy to reduce the size of your cbet. Reasoning being its a ballsy move betting into 2 opponents and also the fact that the chances the flop hit an opponent are higher and subsequently, our chances of getting called are higher as well. We lose little FE and we save money.

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But against more players, there's a larger number of outs for the someone from the group to hit on the turn (ie, 2 guys with mid pairs draw out on TPTK approx. as often as 1 guy with a fd). Wouldn't that suggest we should bet more in multiway pots the same way we bet more on coordinated boards?
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Old 02-16-2007, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

looks standard.

I'd bet the same on the flop
I still think you're kind of lag-tardy orange
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Old 04-06-2007, 08:21 AM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

Sorry, I'm kinda new to poker, so I cant exactly follow the discussion here.

Could someone tell me what's the rationale behind betting on the flop? Seems like you're only drawing to 6 outs, plus a backdoor straight if someone has something like Jack pair.

Wont the $17 bet make your own odds lousier?

Would really appreciate an answer, thanks!
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Old 04-06-2007, 08:38 AM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

JamesLeong, its a standard c-bet, or continuation bet. The theory behind it is that villain folds about half of the times so its profitable right away + it will be easier to build a pot when you hit. Everybody does it.

Harrington on holdem explains when to do it etc pretty well.
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Old 04-06-2007, 08:39 AM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

looks fine. flop isnt very wet so i think flop bet size is fine.
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Old 04-06-2007, 10:07 AM
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Default Re: AQ [censored] pot control 3 or 4 or whatever

i don't think a set is very likely if he is agg pf... but at best you are prob facing an ace with a FD. pitch
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