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Old 04-02-2007, 04:52 PM
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Default ($12) AQo on the button, weird raise from a shortstack

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t80/t160
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1655
UTG+1: t1690
MP1: t1905
MP2: t2225
MP3: t1470
CO: t1645
Hero: t1400
SB: t980
BB: t530

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
5 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to t400</font>, Hero?

Argh, situations like this are always making me cry [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] The villain was pretty calm from the very begining of the game. WTF is this weird raise when he only has 10bb? Push or fold?
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Old 04-02-2007, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: ($12) AQo on the button, weird raise from a shortstack

He either has a monster, mis-clicked, or it is a weak steal attempt on the short blinds. Kind of smells like he wants to get pushed over. I would probably let it go, unless you had a loose read, which it doesn't sound like.
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Old 04-02-2007, 05:00 PM
FANtACEyBB FANtACEyBB is offline
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Default Re: ($12) AQo on the button, weird raise from a shortstack

I think he has a hand as BB should pretty much call with anything. Fold
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Old 04-02-2007, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: ($12) AQo on the button, weird raise from a shortstack

Against an average $12 Dude this seems to be a push too me.
If he is really tight fold.
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Old 04-02-2007, 05:25 PM
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Default Re: ($12) AQo on the button, weird raise from a shortstack

Fold
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Old 04-03-2007, 04:17 AM
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Default Re: ($12) AQo on the button, weird raise from a shortstack

Nothing weird with that raise. He just realised that he cant make it 3 x BB, but is too chicken to push. You need to shove here. I think you are ahead.
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Old 04-03-2007, 04:24 AM
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Default Re: ($12) AQo on the button, weird raise from a shortstack

Push, sometimes he will show AA or KK most of the times he is just a donk.
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Old 04-03-2007, 04:28 AM
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Default Re: ($12) AQo on the button, weird raise from a shortstack

Harrington (in HOH III) states that towards the end of a single table tournament that players fall in love with the idea of 'First in Vigourish' and throw away perfectly playable hands. Although this isnt the end of the tournament this hand is an example of a playable hand against a pre flop raiser when you have a low M (although not low relative to the rest of the table). Shove.
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Old 04-03-2007, 05:23 AM
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Default Re: ($12) AQo on the button, weird raise from a shortstack

Yeah, Harrington stuff...
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Old 04-03-2007, 07:27 AM
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Default Re: ($12) AQo on the button, weird raise from a shortstack

Why weird? This is a standard 2.5x times raise from a guy that either

(1) doesn't know that he can/should shove any hand that he wants to play in the first place
(2) wants action on his monster

I fold unless I've seen him raise light and I think AQ is nicely ahead of his range. In that case I shove.
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