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Old 11-29-2007, 07:23 AM
Ansky Ansky is offline
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Default 50-100 hu... v tricky stack off decision

Early in match, nothing notable has happened yet, except i almost made a couple of big folds but failed to.

We know almost nothing about villain except that a friend said he saw him play the other day and he played fairly TAG, but really we dont have much of a read.

he raises, I rr AJs to 1100 he calls.

Flop A T 6 all clubs. I check he checks.

Turn is a 4 of spades. I bet 1500 he raises to 4000.

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Sorry for not providing more info but this is all I had at the time.
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:40 AM
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call turn. check call river
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:57 AM
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if i checked the flop, i feel like id' check the turn too.

if i did bet, i feel like i'd feel obliged to stack off in some ways, but i would not feel good about it.
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Old 11-29-2007, 08:45 AM
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stack sizes?
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Old 11-29-2007, 09:31 AM
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Default Re: 50-100 hu... v tricky stack off decision

I think I'd fold. If I didn't fold, I think it's a pretty clear call, c/c river once you get here. But you obviously don't like club rivers. You dont like some 9, 8, rivers too. I think between the times you're already toast and the times you will be beaten on the river, you really dont have that much equity in this spot. It's not like your line looks weak. And I agree with AEJ that you should check the turn here most of the time.
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Old 11-29-2007, 09:52 AM
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Default Re: 50-100 hu... v tricky stack off decision

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I think I'd fold. If I didn't fold, I think it's a pretty clear call, c/c river once you get here. But you obviously don't like club rivers. You dont like some 9, 8, rivers too. I think between the times you're already toast and the times you will be beaten on the river, you really dont have that much equity in this spot. It's not like your line looks weak. And I agree with AEJ that you should check the turn here most of the time.

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qft esp bold part. dont really like hte flop check...
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Old 11-29-2007, 10:51 AM
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i fold. i agree that if you check flop you should c/c turn and c/c river instead of betting, generally.
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: 50-100 hu... v tricky stack off decision

diagree with ec/ae. i would bet turn after i checked flop on a board like this and i fold as played.
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Old 11-29-2007, 02:56 PM
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diagree with ec/ae. i would bet turn after i checked flop on a board like this and i fold as played.

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then why are yu betting. that makes no sense. we would rarely if ever check this flop with a two pair hand, and we only improve on the turn 3 out of like 40 times or 2 out of 40 times and that is assuming that we get to the turn with a hand that is possible to improve, which we would rarely 3-bet preflop.

so, we're betting for information? you think he's always raising with better? what exactly do yout hink he has? I'm not saying he often checks behind 2p+ buy it's more likely than us checking it as the PFR, if you ask me.
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Old 11-29-2007, 03:02 PM
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i think hes going to be raising a bet or betting if checked to very infrequently. i expect him to call/fold once we bet the large majority, so its worth protecting equity and getting value out of the hand on turn.
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