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Old 01-28-2007, 02:01 AM
Perseus Perseus is offline
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Default 200 NL - KK facing AI check/raise

Main villian is a TAG. He thought about the move for 30 seconds, and went into his timer before moving in.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($70.30)
Hero ($342.90)
MP ($226)
CO ($226.85)
Button ($230.25)
SB ($211.25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $8, SB calls $7, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($26) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $22</font>, Button calls $22, SB calls $22.

Turn: ($92) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $75</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $181.25</font>, Hero has $106 left
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Old 01-28-2007, 02:05 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL - KK facing AI check/raise

Think about your turn bet for a sec. If he calls then he has 100 left in a pot of 250. Therefore he never calls, he pushes or folds. So to make this bet you must be willing to call a push, otherwise you're bluffing, k?
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Old 01-28-2007, 02:08 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL - KK facing AI check/raise

How do you play this hand
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Old 01-28-2007, 02:10 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL - KK facing AI check/raise

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Think about your turn bet for a sec. If he calls then he has 100 left in a pot of 250. Therefore he never calls, he pushes or folds. So to make this bet you must be willing to call a push, otherwise you're bluffing, k?

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That makes a lot of sense. And this maybe a little embarassing but I never really put much thought into that even though it makes a lot of sense. I think I sorta thought about it subconscously, but not really on a conscious level. I think that is great advice. It has shown me that I really need to think about everything I am doing more often while I am playing.
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Old 01-28-2007, 02:11 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL - KK facing AI check/raise

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How do you play this hand

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What I believe he is saying is that if you bet here, you have to be prepared to call a push. I think he is implying that he would play it the same (or similar) and call the push.
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Old 02-04-2007, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL - KK facing AI check/raise

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Think about your turn bet for a sec. If he calls then he has 100 left in a pot of 250. Therefore he never calls, he pushes or folds. So to make this bet you must be willing to call a push, otherwise you're bluffing, k?

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That makes a lot of sense. And this maybe a little embarassing but I never really put much thought into that even though it makes a lot of sense. I think I sorta thought about it subconscously, but not really on a conscious level. I think that is great advice. It has shown me that I really need to think about everything I am doing more often while I am playing.

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this is one of the many mistakes that one must eliminate from his game at small stakes before he gets owned big time in bigger stakes. i see players play scared all the time with great hands, betting and folding eww
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Old 02-04-2007, 04:02 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL - KK facing AI check/raise

Why'd u bet flop so much? I wouldn't worry about straight/flush draws so much. I'd bet 14 see what the turn comes.
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Old 02-04-2007, 04:09 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL - KK facing AI check/raise

easy call IMO. you are getting like 3.5 to 1 there and SB could be playing KQ or AQ like this.
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Old 02-04-2007, 04:10 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL - KK facing AI check/raise

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Why'd u bet flop so much? I wouldn't worry about straight/flush draws so much. I'd bet 14 see what the turn comes.

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Bet size was fine, although a tiny bit bigger than I would do but that is a style thing, $14 is too small and makes future streets more difficult.
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Old 02-04-2007, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL - KK facing AI check/raise

I think this hand is well played altogether. Bet sizing is fine IMO.
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