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Old 08-31-2007, 07:24 PM
bknollenberg bknollenberg is offline
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Default NL25: AA in position against a push on the flop

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $25.00
BB: $45.25
Hero (UTG): $71.20
MP: $22.40
CO: $12.15
BTN: $22.85

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $0.85</font>, 4 folds, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $1.80</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.20</font>, <font color="red">BB raises all-in to $44.40</font>, Hero???

the guy was kind of a nit. plays lots of hands pf, but is usually very solid when pushes.

thoughts? easy fold?
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Old 08-31-2007, 07:26 PM
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Default Re: NL25: AA in position against a push on the flop

I fold if he's a nit, 200BB is too deep to call.
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Old 08-31-2007, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: NL25: AA in position against a push on the flop

I don't think its as easy just to say he is a nit. I mean look at that board what could he have here to cold call on the BB? J10, QJ maybe Q10 or KQ could even be 108s. I dont think he is gonna push with trips here its not really a draw heavy board. I think i would maybe call here, he is using the deep stacked situation to his advantage and trying to push you off your hand by making you call for over half you chips. Also he must know by leading out you are def going to be raising him on a nice flop texture like that so a push with a draw has good fold equity in his eyes. I think call, am i wrong?
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Old 08-31-2007, 07:42 PM
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Default Re: NL25: AA in position against a push on the flop

I think sets are heavy in this range, as well as if hes loose preflop he could have Q9 just as likely as Q10. 77 would prob be my biggest worry, it depends heavily on image as well. If he knows you will call with an overpair for 200bb he may push trips
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Old 08-31-2007, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: NL25: AA in position against a push on the flop

really easy fold.
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Old 08-31-2007, 09:38 PM
bknollenberg bknollenberg is offline
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Default Re: NL25: AA in position against a push on the flop

I thought about the sets, but decided if anything he had super garbage like Q7. Q7 is actually the most probable I think, in which case I has many backdoor outs to the nuts. [censored] it, I am going all in.
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Old 08-31-2007, 09:58 PM
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Default Re: NL25: AA in position against a push on the flop

Q7 does not seem like its in his range
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Old 08-31-2007, 10:16 PM
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Default Re: NL25: AA in position against a push on the flop

Against a random donk I would have persuaded myself to call, but if he's somewhat decent ur beat here most of the time.. 200 bb deep this is a fold imo, as u said his range is wide and he can have hit this flop in several ways.. never ever would he push top pair in this spot and a freak flopped two pair seems like the most likely holding here.. Not sure he'd play a set like this. Fold all day long, the board is to dry here..
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Old 08-31-2007, 10:16 PM
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Default Re: NL25: AA in position against a push on the flop

on this board sets would check/raise here or smallish bet/raise (not necessarily AI). this bet-pot/raise AI line is weird and doesn't smell like a set. I need vpip/pfr to weigh in two pair possibilities, but I think you are ahead against loose donks behind against tight nits...
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Old 08-31-2007, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: NL25: AA in position against a push on the flop

Whoaaaaah why so many folds? Come on. BB calls the 3.5BB bet PF, flop comes Q79 rainbow and nitty villain bets the pot. Most people with sets here check and call the CBet to make it look like a float since most people CBet that flop. I do not like the raise on the flop at all, but as played, his shove SCREAMS JT. Note that he can't call the bet for odds, and he thinks he can shove since hero's deep and he has FE. I think we see JT and AQ more often than anything else since hero raised UTG. Q9 is probably out of the range, so I see this as JT/QK/AQ mostly, mayyyybe QJ or Q9 sometimes, and RARELY 77/99/QQ.

To summarize, Hero raised UTG. BB rarely rarely 3Bets the Q79 rainbow flop with a set.
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