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Old 09-19-2007, 01:46 AM
ImNotSoGood ImNotSoGood is offline
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Default Obvious Collusion - Pokerstars

This is the e-mail I wrote to Stars, such sick and obvious collusion and it was for the ME seat on stars:

Dear Pokerstars Support,

I was part of a satellite tournament to the main event in which there was very obvious collusion. As soon as we reached the final bubble, the chipleader began to isolate and move all in every hand. There was absolutely no benefit for him to do this. The only benefit was to the extremely short stack. The chipleader : Rotten proceeded to move all in every hand after this until the shortstack survived.

This was Tournament 61150023 Table 3. The player in question is The_rotter77, and the shortstack is LiverSpot.

In the first hand where rotter isolated the two happenned to have the exact same hand.

Here is the Hand History:


PokerStars Game #12141101058: Tournament #61150023, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (1000/2000) - 2007/09/19 - 00:50:02 (ET)
Table '61150023 3' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: ImNotSoGood (15654 in chips)
Seat 4: CACIATORE (39687 in chips)
Seat 5: RickyReardon (74982 in chips)
Seat 6: LiverSpot (766 in chips)
Seat 7: vikihris (13366 in chips)
Seat 8: the_rotter77 (106525 in chips)
Seat 9: hubla1 (14520 in chips)
ImNotSoGood: posts the ante 200
CACIATORE: posts the ante 200
RickyReardon: posts the ante 200
LiverSpot: posts the ante 200
vikihris: posts the ante 200
the_rotter77: posts the ante 200
hubla1: posts the ante 200
vikihris: posts small blind 1000
the_rotter77: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ImNotSoGood [9h 5d]
hubla1: folds
ImNotSoGood: folds
CACIATORE: calls 2000
RickyReardon: calls 2000
LiverSpot: calls 566 and is all-in
vikihris: calls 1000
the_rotter77: raises 104325 to 106325 and is all-in
CACIATORE: folds
RickyReardon: folds
vikihris: folds
*** FLOP *** [2c 2d Ts]
*** TURN *** [2c 2d Ts] [Jh]
*** RIVER *** [2c 2d Ts Jh] [Th]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
the_rotter77: shows [Ac 3d] (two pair, Tens and Deuces)
the_rotter77 collected 5736 from side pot
LiverSpot: shows [3h As] (two pair, Tens and Deuces)
the_rotter77 collected 2115 from main pot
LiverSpot collected 2115 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9966 Main pot 4230. Side pot 5736. | Rake 0
Board [2c 2d Ts Jh Th]
Seat 1: ImNotSoGood folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: CACIATORE folded before Flop
Seat 5: RickyReardon folded before Flop
Seat 6: LiverSpot (button) showed [3h As] and won (2115) with two pair, Tens and Deuces
Seat 7: vikihris (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: the_rotter77 (big blind) showed [Ac 3d] and won (7851) with two pair, Tens and Deuces
Seat 9: hubla1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


the_rotter77 proceeded to go all in every single hand after this until the shortstack survived.

The_rotter77 had not previously done this, only when LiverSpot's tournament life became gravely endangered.

I would appreciate if this matter were investigated.

Thank You,
"ImNotSoGood"
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Old 09-19-2007, 01:48 AM
PartyGirlUK PartyGirlUK is offline
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Default Re: Obvious Collusion - Pokerstars

Inconclusive - sometimes the bigstacks like to shove all in just cos, ya know, it's pretty darn fun.
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Old 09-19-2007, 01:48 AM
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Default Re: Obvious Collusion - Pokerstars

LOL...well done Inspector Gadget..I can assure you there is no collusion here just bad playing.
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Old 09-19-2007, 01:52 AM
ImNotSoGood ImNotSoGood is offline
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Default Re: Obvious Collusion - Pokerstars

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Inconclusive - sometimes the bigstacks like to shove all in just cos, ya know, it's pretty darn fun.

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Yes I know, but he wasn't doing this earlier, only started once Liver got extremely short. That's what was so suspicious.
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Old 09-19-2007, 01:56 AM
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Default Re: Obvious Collusion - Pokerstars

LOL at collusion. Just when I think these threads can't get any [censored] dumber someone like you comes along and provides a good laugh.
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Old 09-19-2007, 02:03 AM
WutRUTryin2Hit WutRUTryin2Hit is offline
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Default Re: Obvious Collusion - Pokerstars

I guess we don't have to ask who bubbled. But yeah, big stacks love doing this on the bubble a lot, pokerstars will I'm sure look into it, but chances are it's not collusion.
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Old 09-19-2007, 02:06 AM
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Default Re: Obvious Collusion - Pokerstars

this is retarded

when i am bigstack on the bubble of a satellite i open-shove/spitecall and i [censored] enjoy it
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Old 09-19-2007, 02:08 AM
ImNotSoGood ImNotSoGood is offline
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Default Re: Obvious Collusion - Pokerstars

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LOL...well done Inspector Gadget..I can assure you there is no collusion here just bad playing.

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Bad playing huh....?

I'm pretty steamed right now, I might have to challenge u HU for rolls.
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Old 09-19-2007, 02:31 AM
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Default Re: Obvious Collusion - Pokerstars

I'm failing to see how all the pushing after that would guarantee a spot for the short-stack.
Can't you wait it out and see if he loses on the next orbit?
He still has only about 1BB so even folding AA to the big-stack's pushes seems a reasonable bubble strategy at this point.
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Old 09-19-2007, 02:47 AM
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Default Re: Obvious Collusion - Pokerstars

It is a solid strategy for picking up extra chips when others are trying to move up in the money, very solid though not a particularly advanced play if you ask me.

Jimbo
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