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#32
11-28-2007, 05:12 PM
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Re: river bluff vs. 2p2er
i was saying that wanting to "take it down" preflop was a joke, but whatever. in any case, i don't really see the preflop discussion going anywhere.
for the purpose of this hand, pretend i have 66 if you want. 
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#33
11-28-2007, 05:18 PM
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Re: river bluff vs. 2p2er
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i was saying that wanting to "take it down" preflop was a joke, but whatever. in any case, i don't really see the preflop discussion going anywhere. for the purpose of this hand, pretend i have 66 if you want. [/ QUOTE ] 66 is totally different though, in that he is going to vb pairs of 9s 8s and maybe even 7s, an he may not think TT/JJ are in your range here based on pre. I think calling is fine on the river, i dont like that diamonds missed. fwiw i like a flop c/r with a pretty big range here althought i know you hate raising
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#34
11-28-2007, 05:22 PM
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Re: river bluff vs. 2p2er
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i was saying that wanting to "take it down" preflop was a joke, but whatever. in any case, i don't really see the preflop discussion going anywhere. for the purpose of this hand, pretend i have 66 if you want. [/ QUOTE ] 66 is a different because sometimes villain is bluffing a hand like 76 or decided to turn 88/99 into a bluff and then you look like a tool if you call. The same is not true if you have TT.
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#35
11-28-2007, 05:24 PM
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Re: river bluff vs. 2p2er
For the purpose of discussion we could consider you had A high b/c you're not getting called by anything you beat and I really think he is calling with most Qs. Your hand looks quite a bit like a busted fd. It sounds like there is enough dynamic b/t you and villain that it is tough for all of us to see how your reasoning is correct. This hand in a vacuum looks kinda weird but it could work out well for you down the road against this guy if he did call.
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#36
11-28-2007, 05:30 PM
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Re: river bluff vs. 2p2er
allin on river. i think it's a good bluff because he probably can't put you on a missed draw after you c/c flop.
shove > fold > call imo. calling seems awful, he probably has a queen a lot.
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#37
11-28-2007, 05:36 PM
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Re: river bluff vs. 2p2er
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allin on river. i think it's a good bluff because he probably can't put you on a missed draw after you c/c flop. shove > fold > call imo. calling seems awful, he probably has a queen a lot. [/ QUOTE ] a guy with 6af isnt betting a Q that he cc with pre on the turn against a guy who likes calling him down?
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#38
11-28-2007, 05:45 PM
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Re: river bluff vs. 2p2er
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[ QUOTE ] allin on river. i think it's a good bluff because he probably can't put you on a missed draw after you c/c flop. shove > fold > call imo. calling seems awful, he probably has a queen a lot. [/ QUOTE ] a guy with 6af isnt betting a Q that he cc with pre on the turn against a guy who likes calling him down? [/ QUOTE ] more likely a guy with 6af checks QT rather than checking diamonds.
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#40
11-28-2007, 06:13 PM
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Re: river bluff vs. 2p2er
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[ QUOTE ] if he folded, you had the best hand... squeeze pre 100% [/ QUOTE ] great post edit: do you pay off every time a villain takes a non-standard line? from reading your posts, it seems to me that thinking, trappy tags would have a field day against you. [/ QUOTE ] we aren't playing me, you are playing a 30/10/1, he's not folding a Q your assholery is excused.
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