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10-11-2007, 11:58 AM
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Probebly obvious to many of you - rake
I was messing with some of my spread sheets and looking at the difference between 9 seat tables and 10 seat tables.
Playing around I discovered that if I had the same results (1st, 2nd, 3rd) but on 10 man tables my ROI would get a 13% bump. WOW!!!! That really surprised me. Is this do to the combination prize money/rake? In a $11 SNG does that extra $10 in prize money mean THAT much?? What places have 10 man SNG ??? I'm only playing Full Tilt, Absolute and BoDog at the moment and I think BoDog is 10 man. What is Stars???? This is something else the FAQ should mention when it talks about ROI and results!! 
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#4
10-11-2007, 12:09 PM
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Re: Probebly obvious to many of you - rake
Yea - I understand less ITM but not 10% less. I wuld have to think maybe 3% less ITM on a 10 man table. With ITM being slightly less (how much????) you would expect ROI to also fall but not enough to offset the money gained with the extra $$ in prizes.
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#6
10-11-2007, 12:20 PM
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Re: Probebly obvious to many of you - rake
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Playing around I discovered that if I had the same results (1st, 2nd, 3rd) but on 10 man tables my ROI would get a 13% bump. In a $11 SNG does that extra $10 in prize money mean THAT much?? [/ QUOTE ] Well, it's a 10% bump in the prize pool, 13% just means you have a decent distribution of places. And if ROI's where all the same you would have 10% less ITM. A smaller difference just illustrates the skill difference. Stars all 9-man exept the $3.4. Those are fishy enough your ITM % shouldn't drop at all. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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#7
10-11-2007, 12:27 PM
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Re: Probebly obvious to many of you - rake
That is why one more player should not decrease your ITM THAT much.
The extra player (I have yet to see non fishy SNGs at least up to $22)will probably either be a fish. I was trying to normalize all of my games and was just surprised at the difference between 9 and 10 man.
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#9
10-11-2007, 12:35 PM
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Re: Probebly obvious to many of you - rake
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You'll get ITM less in a 10 man. Your ROI should stay the same. [/ QUOTE ] Your ROI will be a little higher in 10man sngs. Sure you'll ITM a little less but the larger prize pool compensates for this.
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#10
10-11-2007, 12:50 PM
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Re: Probebly obvious to many of you - rake
Thats what I was thinking - the extra player would not have a $10 equity in the beginning, more like $6 with the other $4 spread out over the other 9 players.
But I wonder if the bottom line changes with the greater playing time involved. BoDog SNGs take forever and that is why I was staying away but if there is that much of an increase in ROI . . . . .
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