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Nontraditional Heisman Candidates
I read this article about Jake Long and how he should be in the discussion for the Heisman. Everyone knows he is good, but I had no idea of the following:
- Has not given up a sack all year - Has not been called for a penalty all year - 3 different backs have run for over 100 yards in a game primarily behind him (well, I did know that) Long himself makes a good point near the end of the article that it's basically turned into a skill position trophy, but that's not how the wording of the article goes. What do you think of Long as a candidate? What other guys in the trenches are out there that might be better than anyone else in the country? Any applicable stats or analysis would be good too; I want to learn about some of these less-publicized guys. |
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Re: Nontraditional Heisman Candidates
Austin Starr is 16/17 on FGs, including 8/8 from 40-49, and is 33/33 on PAT. Cant find any stats on kickoffs so I'll pretend he booms them.
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Re: Nontraditional Heisman Candidates
I don't know how that article doesn't even even mention Orlando Pace, who was even more dominant than Long, and who generated the same kind of argument not too long ago. I think he ended up finishing 4th in the voting.
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Re: Nontraditional Heisman Candidates
They should change the description of the Heisman from the award for the "most outstanding collegiate football player" to something along the lines of the "most exciting collegiate football player". I doubt anyone would argue that the trophy is always given to the best player in the country. Too often players are excluded because of their position or their team's record.
What I would really like to see is an award that has a list of candidates resulting from the winners of each positions respective prestigious award (Doak Walker Award, Dick Butkus Award, etc.). |
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Re: Nontraditional Heisman Candidates
Even the term "skill position" is biased. Playing O-line takes skill. (Believe me, I know!) "Skill position" = players that carry the ball.
IMO linemen should be considered. They never will though. But the fact that linemen are drafted high along with the "skill" players demonstrates their importance. |
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Re: Nontraditional Heisman Candidates
Dorsey for LSU is a beast on Defense.
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Re: Nontraditional Heisman Candidates
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They should change the description of the Heisman from the award for the "most outstanding collegiate football player" to something along the lines of the "best running back or quarterback of the top 5 bcs teams". I doubt anyone would argue that the trophy is always given to the best player in the country. Too often players are excluded because of their position or their team's record. What I would really like to see is an award that has a list of candidates resulting from the winners of each positions respective prestigious award (Doak Walker Award, Dick Butkus Award, etc.). [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: Nontraditional Heisman Candidates
Wrong Long, imo.
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- Has not given up a sack all year - Has not been called for a penalty all year - 3 different backs have run for over 100 yards in a game primarily behind him (well, I did know that) [/ QUOTE ] All great reasons I will be pissed when the Falcons don't draft him with their first pick next year. |
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Re: Nontraditional Heisman Candidates
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] - Has not given up a sack all year - Has not been called for a penalty all year - 3 different backs have run for over 100 yards in a game primarily behind him (well, I did know that) [/ QUOTE ] All great reasons I will be pissed when the Falcons don't draft him with their first pick next year. [/ QUOTE ] Please pick him Falcons so Vikings can get Brohm/Ryan/Woodson |
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