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Old 07-24-2007, 09:36 PM
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Default should i fold the nuts here? stupid question right....

well i know its a stupid question i assume to be calling only to chop the pot and i assume a 3rd player has every out in the deck. so opinions...should i have mucked on the flop? not after i committed myself with the 8.55 flop bet huh

PokerStars Game #11111962820: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/07/24 - 15:14:47 (ET)
Table 'Serpens IV' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Camille ($35.35 in chips)
Seat 2: drexle ($38.75 in chips)
Seat 3: louey85 ($64.65 in chips)
Seat 4: big-pete 1 ($25.80 in chips)
Seat 5: utopiaseeker ($34.20 in chips)
Seat 6: Svenmania ($30 in chips)
big-pete 1: posts small blind $0.25
utopiaseeker: posts big blind $0.50
Svenmania: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to utopiaseeker [Ah 6d Jd 5h]
Svenmania: checks
Camille: calls $0.50
drexle: calls $0.50
louey85: raises $1 to $1.50
big-pete 1: calls $1.25
utopiaseeker: calls $1
Svenmania: calls $1
Camille: calls $1
drexle: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [7c 4c 8h]
big-pete 1: checks
utopiaseeker: bets $8.55
Svenmania: folds
Camille: calls $8.55
drexle: folds
louey85: raises $30.45 to $39
big-pete 1: folds
utopiaseeker: calls $24.15 and is all-in
Camille: calls $25.30 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [7c 4c 8h] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [7c 4c 8h 3h] [3d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Camille: shows [Th 8c 6h 9c] (two pair, Eights and Threes)
louey85: shows [6s 4d 4s 5d] (a full house, Fours full of Threes)
louey85 collected $2.30 from side pot
utopiaseeker: mucks hand
louey85 collected $104.10 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $109.40 Main pot $104.10. Side pot $2.30. | Rake $3
Board [7c 4c 8h 3h 3d]
Seat 1: Camille showed [Th 8c 6h 9c] and lost with two pair, Eights and Threes
Seat 2: drexle folded on the Flop
Seat 3: louey85 (button) showed [6s 4d 4s 5d] and won ($106.40) with a full house, Fours full of Threes
Seat 4: big-pete 1 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: utopiaseeker (big blind) mucked [Ah 6d Jd 5h]
Seat 6: Svenmania folded on the Flop
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:12 PM
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Default Re: should i fold the nuts here? stupid question right....

"stupid question right...."
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:38 AM
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Default Re: should i fold the nuts here? stupid question right....

does anyone else just fold this garbage preflop?
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Old 07-25-2007, 03:22 AM
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Default Re: should i fold the nuts here? stupid question right....

yeah i fold pre and as played i probably check flop and re-asses
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Old 07-25-2007, 05:40 AM
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Default Re: should i fold the nuts here? stupid question right....

I would have folded preflop but since we're in the hand I do see myself getting allin on the flop. Probably just means I still have to learn a lot about Omaha [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 07-25-2007, 10:05 AM
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Default Re: should i fold the nuts here? stupid question right....

I like the call pre-flop in a multi-way pot. Don't be such nits you guys.

Flop is probably a fold because you're right, unless the raiser is a donk, you're either behind to a set + flush draw, splitting, or being freerolled by straight + draw.
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Old 07-25-2007, 10:07 AM
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Default Re: should i fold the nuts here? stupid question right....

You guys really fold this pre? 'Garbage'? Well, I guess I've been living off your scraps for a while....

This should be a fold on the flop, I think, depending on the guys you're in with. It's about the most dangerous possible board for the naked nut straight, and you don't need to be up against the straight with redraws to be in trouble, you just need to be up against the straight and someone else to have a good draw.
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Old 07-25-2007, 10:09 AM
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Default Re: should i fold the nuts here? stupid question right....

and that's why you fold preflop. The only way your cards ever work together is when you flop the nut straight with a nut flush draw. Other than that rare occasion you're always playing 2 cards in a 4 card game.
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Old 07-25-2007, 10:22 AM
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Default Re: should i fold the nuts here? stupid question right....

Wait, what, it should be a fold preflop because you could flop the nuts and be freerolled? If it is a fold preflop (it isn't) surely this can't be why.....
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Old 07-25-2007, 10:30 AM
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Default Re: should i fold the nuts here? stupid question right....

lol @ folding that preflop

plz
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