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Old 06-26-2007, 11:35 AM
KurtSF KurtSF is offline
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I think the issue is not that he exposed his cards, but rather a break of the one-player-to-a-hand rule. He should get a KITN for showing his hand to a friend also in the pot. Don't ask me what the ruling should be.

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Just for comedic value, Ill say that the idiot open pushed $500 into the $100 pot on a Jxx flop even though we all knew what he had. Obviously someone calls if they have him beat and folds other wise.

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Why is this a bad play? What's a better play? Checking it down and hoping you don't get outdrawn? Betting something like $50 would have been interesting since calculating implied odds has a new twist. Personally, I would have made the same push and if somebody had a set or some asnine Jx hand, then good for them. Otherwise, the only thing any opponent could have is a draw and the push takes away all odds for drawing.

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That's a bad play because you only get called if you are beat. If you have already decided to commit your entire stack to this hand you are much better off making small value bets all the way and hoping someone tries to bluff you.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:30 PM
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That's a bad play because you only get called if you are beat. If you have already decided to commit your entire stack to this hand you are much better off making small value bets all the way and hoping someone tries to bluff you.

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I'm going to post this in the NL cash forums for opinions.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:39 PM
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I am pretty sure it is not standard, but in several rooms I have played in, if you intentionally expose any part of your hand in a multiway pot prior to showdown, your hand is dead. However, if you intentionally expose any part of your hand at any time in a heads-up pot, it is live.
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Old 06-26-2007, 01:50 PM
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IF a card or cards are exposed to a player, in the hand or not, during the play of the hand the card or cards should be exposed to the table.

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I disagree. If the hand is intentionally exposed to a player who is in the pot, then the hand should immediately be exposed to the table. If it is exposed to a player that is not in the hand, then it should not be exposed until the hand is played out, after which any player should be able to request to see the hand.
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Old 06-26-2007, 09:47 PM
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Just a quick question that I was unsure of after reading the story. Was the player exposing his cards to a player still in the hand or just a buddy beside him who had already folded?

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He was showing his hand to his buddy who had limped and the action was just about to be on the buddy so basically he was showing his friend his hand as the friend was deciding if he should call or not.
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:08 AM
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Just for comedic value, Ill say that the idiot open pushed $500 into the $100 pot on a Jxx flop even though we all knew what he had. Obviously someone calls if they have him beat and folds other wise.

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You should be thanking him for showing the table his cards then. I'm not sure why you think his hand should be dead unless they have that specific rule where you play? Even in a tourney, at any casino that has standard rules his hand would not be dead, but he would most likely get a time penalty after the hand.
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:09 AM
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I am pretty sure it is not standard, but in several rooms I have played in, if you intentionally expose any part of your hand in a multiway pot prior to showdown, your hand is dead. However, if you intentionally expose any part of your hand at any time in a heads-up pot, it is live.

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What happens if I intentionally expose some other part of my body?
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Old 06-27-2007, 12:57 PM
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I wasnt arguing that it should be dead. I was asking because I didnt know the correct ruling. It seems the correct ruling was made.
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Old 06-27-2007, 01:08 PM
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Hand is live - hand is exposed to table - player gets told if you do it agin, you are out.
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