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Old 06-18-2007, 05:05 PM
AcidKnight AcidKnight is offline
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Default Re: Live 10/25 @ the WSOP... I hate folding...

I think that you have to push because you don't KNOW he's a nit, you're making an assumption based on him sitting with you for a couple of orbits.

You always have outs and there's a chance that your hand is best. CTS is right about how bad live players are and the hands that they think they need to "protect" here are often ones that you're totally crushing.
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Old 06-18-2007, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: Live 10/25 @ the WSOP... I hate folding...

so whY PUSH HIM OFF IT?
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Old 06-18-2007, 05:56 PM
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Old 06-18-2007, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: Live 10/25 @ the WSOP... I hate folding...

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Kay now lets actually think about it..

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i did. i still say push. i dont think its that tough. and i also feel u might be overthinking it. its live, people are stupid, they are like hrmm maybe i have best hand if not i have outs! call with TT Ts! ship it.
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Old 06-18-2007, 06:53 PM
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Default Re: Live 10/25 @ the WSOP... I hate folding...

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Its either push or flat call. If I flat call its obviously with intent to felt this no matter what happens in the end. Theres no way I fold here for 100 BB.

Pushing is a more basic standard play and I dont think its a bad one. Flat calling is obviously trying to take advantage of the fact that turn and river cards are going to make your life easier and your opp's life harder (there are really no bad turn or river cards for you hand, whereas there are many other hands that do have bad turn and river cards). Unfortunately, to counterbalance this, the opp does have position on you.

A flat call with the idea of -

a) pushing into him on any turn that is a 4th spade

b) Otherwise, c/r all-in on any other turn. If the villain checks behind, I think a c/r all-in on any river is best.

- might be better than just the standard flop all-in. Its a more sophisticated play, though im not sure if its a better one.

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what are you even talking about

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dude everytime i post you make some annoying comment like "wtf are saying" or "what are you talking about".. etc..

Just stop. If your want to make criticism on my analysis, say it, but saying what your saying is just going to piss me off and not going to help the situation at all
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Old 06-18-2007, 06:55 PM
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Default Re: Live 10/25 @ the WSOP... I hate folding...

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Its either push or flat call. If I flat call its obviously with intent to felt this no matter what happens in the end. Theres no way I fold here for 100 BB.

Pushing is a more basic standard play and I dont think its a bad one. Flat calling is obviously trying to take advantage of the fact that turn and river cards are going to make your life easier and your opp's life harder (there are really no bad turn or river cards for you hand, whereas there are many other hands that do have bad turn and river cards). Unfortunately, to counterbalance this, the opp does have position on you.

A flat call with the idea of -

a) pushing into him on any turn that is a 4th spade

b) Otherwise, c/r all-in on any other turn. If the villain checks behind, I think a c/r all-in on any river is best.

- might be better than just the standard flop all-in. Its a more sophisticated play, though im not sure if its a better one.

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what are you even talking about

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dude everytime i post you make some annoying comment like "wtf are saying" or "what are you talking about".. etc..

Just stop. If your want to make criticism on my analysis, say it, but saying what your saying is just going to piss me off and not going to help the situation at all

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What are you even talking about
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Old 06-18-2007, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: Live 10/25 @ the WSOP... I hate folding...

i agree with raptor here.
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Old 06-18-2007, 08:03 PM
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Default Re: Live 10/25 @ the WSOP... I hate folding...

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i agree with raptor here.

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yeh hes right man, youre definitely overthinking this.
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Old 06-18-2007, 09:32 PM
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Default Re: Live 10/25 @ the WSOP... I hate folding...

lemme get this straight. You have AA with the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] , flop comes all spades, and you're considering folding to a raise? Who's the nit here??
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Old 06-19-2007, 12:32 AM
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Default Re: Live 10/25 @ the WSOP... I hate folding...

His stack makes this an easy push.
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