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Old 10-23-2007, 02:25 AM
albedoa albedoa is offline
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Default Re: AP, rigged, etc. #8981.4 - the plot thickens

Justin West has some new thoughts about the scandal. He now thinks that there was cheating going on. O RLY?

He still says there was no superuser, though.
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:25 AM
GaryTheGoat GaryTheGoat is offline
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Default Re: AP, rigged, etc. #8981.4 - the plot thickens

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can people who speak to AP please (where possible) record the phone calls?

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gg
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:26 AM
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Default Re: AP, rigged, etc. #8981.4 - the plot thickens

That Beckley relation revelation if true is pretty funny.

It's funny you know. It's a good story, it's funny, they're funny guys.
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:26 AM
mntbikr15 mntbikr15 is offline
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Default Re: AP, rigged, etc. #8981.4 - the plot thickens

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Justin West has some new thoughts about the scandal. He now thinks that there was cheating going on. O RLY?

He still says there was no superuser, though.

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who the [censored] is this tard anyway?

ive never heard his name before all this
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:26 AM
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Default Re: AP, rigged, etc. #8981.4 - the plot thickens

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there are a lot of different ways to skim money on a poker site. Over 3 years that's about 1100 days at 6k a day it's 6.5+ Million. If any of us had access to this winning 6k a day not only possible it'd take about less than an hour across different limits/game types.

It being an incestous pool probably filled with old friends, family, frat bros etc. I think 7 mill is very easily doable. Do they offer stud, PL, PLO, SNG, etc. Spread around it'd be impossible to track and I think the previous users with access were probably smarter (of course this is not what potripper's MO is in that 1 tourney)

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That's the whole point. This scam was not smart. It was reckless and painfully obvious.

I find it unlikely that these brilliant criminal minds, who had been perfectly skimming 6k/day for 3 years, suddenly decided to be complete retards and totally give away their whole scam. They were complete retards from the start. I don't think these egotistical jerkoffs had even 10% of the self-control necessary to pull off a long-term small-increment scamming of the games.

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I read somewhere that AJ is a cocaine user. Personally, I stick to classic drugs, such as shoe polish and gasoline, so I don't know about cocaine - but could that cause a person to on one three day binge go atypically nuts?
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:26 AM
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Default Re: AP, rigged, etc. #8981.4 - the plot thickens

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there are a lot of different ways to skim money on a poker site. Over 3 years that's about 1100 days at 6k a day it's 6.5+ Million. If any of us had access to this winning 6k a day not only possible it'd take about less than an hour across different limits/game types.

It being an incestous pool probably filled with old friends, family, frat bros etc. I think 7 mill is very easily doable. Do they offer stud, PL, PLO, SNG, etc. Spread around it'd be impossible to track and I think the previous users with access were probably smarter (of course this is not what potripper's MO is in that 1 tourney)

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That's the whole point. This scam was not smart. It was reckless and painfully obvious.

I find it unlikely that these brilliant criminal minds, who had been perfectly skimming 6k/day for 3 years, suddenly decided to be complete retards and totally give away their whole scam. They were complete retards from the start. I don't think these egotistical jerkoffs had even 10% of the self-control necessary to pull off a long-term small-increment scamming of the games.

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I agree that did not seem like the MO from the tourny HHs. But more than a few ex props said they felt cheated way back in the day. I do believe that any scammer usually starts out smaller and builds up so I can believe them starting out smaller
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:29 AM
mntbikr15 mntbikr15 is offline
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Default Re: AP, rigged, etc. #8981.4 - the plot thickens

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there are a lot of different ways to skim money on a poker site. Over 3 years that's about 1100 days at 6k a day it's 6.5+ Million. If any of us had access to this winning 6k a day not only possible it'd take about less than an hour across different limits/game types.

It being an incestous pool probably filled with old friends, family, frat bros etc. I think 7 mill is very easily doable. Do they offer stud, PL, PLO, SNG, etc. Spread around it'd be impossible to track and I think the previous users with access were probably smarter (of course this is not what potripper's MO is in that 1 tourney)

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That's the whole point. This scam was not smart. It was reckless and painfully obvious.

I find it unlikely that these brilliant criminal minds, who had been perfectly skimming 6k/day for 3 years, suddenly decided to be complete retards and totally give away their whole scam. They were complete retards from the start. I don't think these egotistical jerkoffs had even 10% of the self-control necessary to pull off a long-term small-increment scamming of the games.

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I agree that did not seem like the MO from the tourny HHs. But more than a few ex props said they felt cheated way back in the day. I do believe that any scammer usually starts out smaller and builds up so I can believe them starting out smaller

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fwiw many of the props that feel "cheated" ranged from flat out terrible, to not being able to beat the games they choose to play.
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:29 AM
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Default Re: AP, rigged, etc. #8981.4 - the plot thickens

yeah this is hilarious

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2.)The idea that these "ballers" are going to patiently grind out msnl or ssnl seems very unlikely to me.

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It being an incestous pool probably filled with old friends, family, frat bros etc. I think 7 mill is very easily doable. Do they offer stud, PL, PLO, SNG, etc. Spread around it'd be impossible to track

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so awesome - dude's grandparents are grinding plo sngs. case closed, guys.
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:31 AM
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Default Re: AP, rigged, etc. #8981.4 - the plot thickens

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there are a lot of different ways to skim money on a poker site. Over 3 years that's about 1100 days at 6k a day it's 6.5+ Million. If any of us had access to this winning 6k a day not only possible it'd take about less than an hour across different limits/game types.

It being an incestous pool probably filled with old friends, family, frat bros etc. I think 7 mill is very easily doable. Do they offer stud, PL, PLO, SNG, etc. Spread around it'd be impossible to track and I think the previous users with access were probably smarter (of course this is not what potripper's MO is in that 1 tourney)

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That's the whole point. This scam was not smart. It was reckless and painfully obvious.

I find it unlikely that these brilliant criminal minds, who had been perfectly skimming 6k/day for 3 years, suddenly decided to be complete retards and totally give away their whole scam. They were complete retards from the start. I don't think these egotistical jerkoffs had even 10% of the self-control necessary to pull off a long-term small-increment scamming of the games.

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It only takes one coked-up retard to ruin it for everyone.

This type of pattern has been repeated 1258458345872345 times throughout history:

- Amazingly awesome scam that will never be detected
- Inner circle widens a bit
- Some noob gets cocky/cokey, does something idiotic to "blow" it for everyone
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:32 AM
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Default Re: AP, rigged, etc. #8981.4 - the plot thickens

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Justin West has some new thoughts about the scandal. He now thinks that there was cheating going on. O RLY?

He still says there was no superuser, though.

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Do you wonder why??

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