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11-11-2007, 01:03 AM
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Re: Top 25 college football players - who are the last 11?
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thanks for starting this thread and posting the list, but how can archie griffin be #21? what a joke, it makes the rest of the list moot... [/ QUOTE ] I agree. I thought he shouldn't have won either of those heisman's. 
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#53
11-11-2007, 01:31 AM
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Re: Top 25 college football players - who are the last 11?
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[ QUOTE ] thanks for starting this thread and posting the list, but how can archie griffin be #21? what a joke, it makes the rest of the list moot... [/ QUOTE ] I agree. I thought he shouldn't have won either of those heisman's. [/ QUOTE ] I'm an Ohio State fan, but I have to agree (at least in regards to the second Heisman). His junior year he put up 1,695 yds avg 6.6 ypc. His senior year he rushed for 1,450 yds avg 5.5 ypc. I wasn't alive during the '70s, so my opinion is pretty worthless but those stats aren't exactly eye-popping. It appears on initial glance that he his trophy senior year was based on reputation. IMO Griffin is the third-best running back from tOSU, behind Eddie George and Robert Smith.
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#54
11-11-2007, 01:59 AM
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Re: Top 25 college football players - who are the last 11?
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[ QUOTE ] 1. Vince Young 2-11. Bunch of scrubs (in relation to Vince Young) [/ QUOTE ] There aren't many guys who can single-handedly win a NC. [/ QUOTE ] You are right and Vince Young sure as hell isn't one of them. I’m not an expert on Texas football by any means, but your statement was so outlandish that I felt compelled to do 15 minutes of research to show how stupid it was. The fact is that the 2005 Longhorns were a well-balanced team chalk full of NFL talent. They had perhaps the greatest secondary of all-time. Here are some of the other players on that Longhorns team: Selvin Young- RB, plays for Broncos Jamal Charles- Stud running back in his senior year at Texas Limas Sweed- Projected to be one of the first WR taken in the 2008 draft David Thomas- TE drafted in the third round, plays for the Patriots Casey Studdard- Guard drafted in the sixth round, plays for the Texans Justin Blalock- Guard, plays for Falcons Lyle Sendlein- Center, plays for Cardinals Brain Robison- DE, Drafted in fourth round, plays for Vikings Tim Crowder- DE, Drafted in second round, plays for Broncos Rodrique Wright- All-American, plays for Dolphins Tarell Brown- CB plays for 49ers Cedric Griffin- CB, drafted in second round, plays for Vikings Aaron Ross- Won Thorpe Award as nation’s top DB in 2006, first round pick, plays for Giants Michael Huff- Won Thorpe Award as nation’s top DB in 2005, seventh overall pick, plays for Raiders Michael Griffin- DB, 19th overall pick, plays for Titans
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#55
11-11-2007, 02:51 AM
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Re: Top 25 college football players - who are the last 11?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] thanks for starting this thread and posting the list, but how can archie griffin be #21? what a joke, it makes the rest of the list moot... [/ QUOTE ] I agree. I thought he shouldn't have won either of those heisman's. [/ QUOTE ] I'm an Ohio State fan, but I have to agree (at least in regards to the second Heisman). His junior year he put up 1,695 yds avg 6.6 ypc. His senior year he rushed for 1,450 yds avg 5.5 ypc. I wasn't alive during the '70s, so my opinion is pretty worthless but those stats aren't exactly eye-popping. It appears on initial glance that he his trophy senior year was based on reputation. IMO Griffin is the third-best running back from tOSU, behind Eddie George and Robert Smith. [/ QUOTE ] Archie Griffin was a great college player. I was kind of twitting the other guy. I thought Anthony Davis deserved the first one. Chuck Muncie might have been best the next year, but he was on a weak Cal team and his eligibility is still a mystery. So he got them both. Fair enough.
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#56
11-11-2007, 06:51 AM
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Re: Top 25 college football players - who are the last 11?
Ok, so let's start naming the people we are 99.99% sure will be on this. I've got 2:
Herschel Walker Barry Sanders 99% sure: Marcus Allen Roger Staubach 95% sure: OJ Simpson
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#57
11-11-2007, 10:32 AM
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Re: Top 25 college football players - who are the last 11?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 1. Vince Young 2-11. Bunch of scrubs (in relation to Vince Young) [/ QUOTE ] There aren't many guys who can single-handedly win a NC. [/ QUOTE ] You are right and Vince Young sure as hell isn't one of them. I’m not an expert on Texas football by any means, but your statement was so outlandish that I felt compelled to do 15 minutes of research to show how stupid it was. The fact is that the 2005 Longhorns were a well-balanced team chalk full of NFL talent. They had perhaps the greatest secondary of all-time. Here are some of the other players on that Longhorns team: Selvin Young- RB, plays for Broncos Jamal Charles- Stud running back in his senior year at Texas Limas Sweed- Projected to be one of the first WR taken in the 2008 draft David Thomas- TE drafted in the third round, plays for the Patriots Casey Studdard- Guard drafted in the sixth round, plays for the Texans Justin Blalock- Guard, plays for Falcons Lyle Sendlein- Center, plays for Cardinals Brain Robison- DE, Drafted in fourth round, plays for Vikings Tim Crowder- DE, Drafted in second round, plays for Broncos Rodrique Wright- All-American, plays for Dolphins Tarell Brown- CB plays for 49ers Cedric Griffin- CB, drafted in second round, plays for Vikings Aaron Ross- Won Thorpe Award as nation’s top DB in 2006, first round pick, plays for Giants Michael Huff- Won Thorpe Award as nation’s top DB in 2005, seventh overall pick, plays for Raiders Michael Griffin- DB, 19th overall pick, plays for Titans [/ QUOTE ] I haven't been part of this debate, but it sure seemed like there were times in that NC that he put the team on his shoulders and carried them to the win, including the last drive if I remember correctly. Of course, in football, it's ridiculous to say one man basically won the NC. If there's ever been a team sport, football is it.
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#58
11-11-2007, 10:52 AM
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Re: Top 25 college football players - who are the last 11?
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Ok, so let's start naming the people we are 99.99% sure will be on this. I've got 2: Herschel Walker Barry Sanders 99% sure: Marcus Allen Roger Staubach 95% sure: OJ Simpson [/ QUOTE ] I think Walker/Dorsett/Jackson/Simpson/Sims/Young are locks. The next group I'd put Staubach/Jim Brown/Namath
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#60
11-11-2007, 11:45 AM
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Re: Top 25 college football players - who are the last 11?
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Ok, so let's start naming the people we are 99.99% sure will be on this. [/ QUOTE ] I would be shocked if Red Grange were not in the top 11. I think he was #1 on the Sporting News list some time ago.
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