Did I overplay these hands? 2 hands (NL .02c / .04c)

[nebuer]

******Hand 1********


$0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (<font color="#0000cc">$4.71</font>)
UTG+1 (<font color="#0000cc">$2.88</font>)
MP1 (<font color="#0000cc">$5.36</font>)
MP2 (<font color="#0000cc">$5.82</font>)
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$7.61</font>)
CO (<font color="#0000cc">$8.88</font>)
BTN (<font color="#0000cc">$1.86</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$4.76</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">$5.44</font>)

Pre-flop: ($0.06, 9 players) Hero is LP K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls $0.04, UTG+1 calls $0.04, <font color="#777777">2 folds</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $0.24</font>, CO calls $0.24, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, SB calls $0.22, <font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $0.2, UTG+1 calls $0.2

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1.24, 5 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1</font>, CO calls $1, <font color="#777777">SB folds</font>, <font color="#777777">UTG folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $1

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($4.24, 3 players)
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $3</font>, CO calls $3, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 goes all-in $1.64</font>

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($11.88, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero goes all-in $3.37</font>, CO calls $3.37

Final Pot: ($18.52)



******Hand 2******


$0.01/$0.02 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (<font color="#0000cc">$4.97</font>)
UTG+1 (<font color="#0000cc">$9.37</font>)
MP1 (<font color="#0000cc">$1.97</font>)
MP2 (<font color="#0000cc">$2.48</font>)
LP (<font color="#0000cc">$5.85</font>)
CO (<font color="#0000cc">$0.32</font>)
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$5.40</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$0.79</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">$3.34</font>)

Pre-flop: ($0.03, 9 players) Hero is BTN 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#777777">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.02, <font color="#777777">2 folds</font>, LP calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.02, SB calls $0.01, BB checks

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($0.12, 6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, LP checks, CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $0.12</font>, <font color="#777777">SB folds</font>, BB calls $0.12, <font color="#777777">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="#777777">LP folds</font>, CO calls $0.12

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($0.48, 3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $0.4</font>, BB calls $0.4, <font color="#cc0000">CO goes all-in $0.18</font>

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($1.46, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1</font>, BB calls $1

Final Pot: ($3.36)


I have no reads on either.

Hand #1: I flopped top pair, 2nd best kicker. Made almost a pot sized bet, as to not give odds for any drawing hands. Neither were showing any strength so I bet again on the turn, got another call. River was a 9, which I didn't think would help anyone, except KJ, though with the amount of money we had left, I couldn't fold even if he did shove. Did I play this right?

Hand #2: I'm not quite sure if I should've called the 3-bet preflop. He bet out with 52c, I raised that for information, I was putting him on AJ+, JJ+. When he 3-bet again, I was getting over 6-1 odds and I knew I'd be able to stack him if I got another 10. King comes, he bets 44c and same deal with pot odds. Checked behind on river, as you do.

[nebuer]

No-one? I'm really confused as to what I should've done on the first hand. I'd really like some replies [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[graha0011]

Hand #1: OOP against a 200+ BB deep stack I don't like the big turn bet. You said no one showed strength but IMO at micro stakes just calling a nearly pot-sized bet can be a show of strength for some opponents. Not everyone is flat calling with air and runner-runner draws. Also lots of people are fascinated by slow-playing 2 pr, sets, etc. I think you check turn see what the CO and UTG+1 do first before you act... Big bet and a call or shove I fold here. You don't want to play for 200BB stacks with one pair good kicker.

[ElectricWaffles]

I think you played both of these hands okay.

In hand #2 I'd raise preflop though, it might be marginal but I dont think you have to play 99 there just for set value.

Also in hand #2 I dont think you can fold to the all in by the short stack, based on the pot size.

In hand #1 I think you did everything fine. I dont always raise KQo preflop, but I have a feeling that's too nitty anyway. You hit TP2ndK on the flop and from there on I think valuebetting is fine on the turn, seeing as you didn't get a raise. By the river a shove is pretty much your only move I think, based on the pot/stack sizes.

There might be an arguemnt for checking the turn in hand #1 but I dont know what it is, lol =)

[nebuer]

Crap. I posted the wrong hand #2. Oops. Lol.

Well it's a good thing to know I played #1 decently, he ended up showing down JKs, diamonds, for a straight he hit on the river. So he was drawing to a flush and OESD on the turn. I'm not sure if I should've checked the river or not when the 9 came up, JK was definately in his range.

[ElectricWaffles]

I think assuming he has KJ on the river would be a mistake. I think there are plenty of other hands in his range that you still beat when you get to the river, you can't assume he's got a monster everytime.