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Old 10-17-2007, 04:24 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default river bluff c/r

villain is 32/26 in 100 hands, all today. i've never seen him before, and he's playing in a bunch of games and sitting at empty tables to play HU. i assume he's good and i haven't seen him out of line yet. we haven't tangled at all.

Poker Stars, $5/$10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $755.45
SB: $215
Hero (BB): $1,659.60
UTG: $1,361
MP: $970
CO: $570

Pre-Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $30</font>, 4 folds, Hero calls $20

Flop: ($65) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $50</font>, Hero calls $50

Turn: ($165) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

River: ($165) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $110</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $400</font>,

i thought this would actually be a pretty place to c/r the river if i had missed a turn c/r with a made flush, so it should be believable.
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Old 10-17-2007, 04:37 PM
Melchiades Melchiades is offline
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Default Re: river bluff c/r

Looks good to me.
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Old 10-17-2007, 04:39 PM
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Default Re: river bluff c/r

Looks good.
sometimes people just cant fold overpairs there.
its funny they will call with like jj but will fold 88
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Old 10-17-2007, 05:00 PM
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Default Re: river bluff c/r

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its funny they will call with like jj but will fold 88

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why is that funny.

i like your play but i don't really like the flop call in general, unless you plan on making this move a somewhat decent % of the time (edit: or he's unusually passive postflop), because your bluffing range here consists pretty much only of made hands being turned into bluffs which makes your play in this hand a bit more believable. on the other hand sets probably aren't in your range unless it's 33, so you're repping a pretty slim range of clubs only ... you're basically counting on him talking himself into a fold here, which 32/26's don't generally like to do. not the ideal player to try this against but probably still OK imo.
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Old 10-17-2007, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: river bluff c/r

Yep good. I think he folds a lot here (2p etc.).
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Old 10-17-2007, 05:08 PM
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Default Re: river bluff c/r

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why is that funny

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cause its same hand, he will be checraised by flush, or bluff
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Old 10-17-2007, 05:11 PM
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Default Re: river bluff c/r

from a theoretical standpoint he shouldn't be calling or folding 100% of his hands here so dividing them up by absolute hand value is never a bad idea

plus that isnt even that relevant here - we could easily turn 9x hands into a bluff here, which is obv true since we turned 44 into a bluff. im not saying i think 88 and JJ differ *that* often, but often enough to the point where you can't say that calling one and folding the other is laughable.
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Old 10-17-2007, 05:16 PM
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imo if u calling with jj you should be calling with 88
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Old 10-17-2007, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: river bluff c/r

thanks for reiterating
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Old 10-17-2007, 05:22 PM
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imo if u calling with jj you should be calling with 88

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obv
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